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Stinger
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 Posted: 17-Nov-2017 23:21 Post subject: Casanova class warship |
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Casanova ---custom---
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 350,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Length: 750 meters
Sail Diameter: 967 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
2 Heavy NPPC
6 Killer Whale
68 ER PPC
68 Large Pulse Laser
1 Beagle Active Probe
1 Guardian ECM
32 NL35
56 Medium Pulse Laser
14 Barracuda
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Class/Model/Name: Casanova ---custom---
Mass: 350,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 63,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 8) 158,375.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 3,500.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 3) 48.00
Structural Integrity: 80 28,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 2,200 Double 1,801.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 1,122.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 875.00
Fire Control Computers: 3,480.00
Food & Water: (111 days supply) 364.00
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (496 total armor pts) 448.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 94
Fore-Left/Right: 82/82
Aft-Left/Right: 82/82
Aft: 74
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (6) with 2 doors 900.00
Small Craft (3) with 1 door 600.00
Cargo (1) with 2 doors 5,000.00
Bay 2: Fighters (6) with 2 doors 900.00
Cargo (1) with 2 doors 5,000.00
Sensors/Spy Gear (1) with 2 doors 300.00
Bay 3: Fighters (6) with 2 doors 900.00
Cargo (1) with 2 doors 5,000.00
Small Craft (3) with 1 door 600.00
DropShip Capacity: 7 Docking Hardpoints 7,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2: (90-meter diameter) 100.00
Grav Deck #3: (80-meter diameter) 50.00
Grav Decks #4 - 5: (90-meter diameter) 100.00
Life Boats: 60 (7 tons each) 420.00
Escape Pods: 60 (7 tons each) 420.00
Crew and Passengers:
80 Officers (42 minimum) 800.00
100 Crew (35 minimum) 700.00
110 Gunners (87 minimum) 770.00
50 1st Class Passengers 500.00
100 2nd Class Passengers 700.00
100 Marines 500.00
50 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals 350.00
66 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 Heavy NPPC Nose 30 30 30 30 450 6,000.00
2 Killer Whale(20 msls) Nose 8 8 8 8 40 1,300.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Nose 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
1 Beagle Active Probe Nose -- -- -- -- 0 1.50
1 Guardian ECM 0 1.50
4 NL35 FL/R 14 14 14 -- 416 5,600.00
2 Killer Whale(30 msls) FL/R 8 8 8 8 80 3,600.00
8 ER PPC FL/R 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
8 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 14(144) 7(72) -- -- 160 112.00
12 Medium Pulse Laser 96 48.00
6 NL35 L/RBS 21 21 21 -- 624 8,400.00
4 Barracuda(40 msls) L/RBS 8 8 8 8 80 3,120.00
12 ER PPC L/RBS 12(120)12(120)12(120) -- 360 168.00
12 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 18(180)11(108) -- -- 240 168.00
12 Medium Pulse Laser 96 48.00
2 Barracuda(20 msls) AL/R 4 4 4 4 40 1,560.00
4 NL35 AL/R 14 14 14 -- 416 5,600.00
8 ER PPC AL/R 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
8 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 10(96) 7(72) -- -- 160 112.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser 32 16.00
2 Barracuda(20 msls) Aft 4 4 4 4 20 780.00
4 NL35 Aft 14 14 14 -- 208 2,800.00
8 ER PPC Aft 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 120 56.00
8 Large Pulse Laser Aft 7(72) 7(72) -- -- 80 56.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (5.00%) 17,500.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 4,298 350,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 23,478,552,800 C-Bills
Battle Value: 71,488
Cost per BV: 328,426.49
Weapon Value: 47,602 (Ratio = .67)
Damage Factors: SRV = 3,373; MRV = 2,854; LRV = 1,644; ERV = 622
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 378,039
(121,053 Structure, 174,638 Life Support, 82,348 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 399,480 (106% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
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Stinger
If it's "creepy" to use the Internet, military satellites, and robot aircraft to find a house full of gorgeous young models so I can drop in on them unexpected, then FINE, I'm "creepy". Howard Wolowitz. BBT.
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Vagabond
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Location: United States
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| Posted: 18-Nov-2017 00:52 Post subject: Casanova class warship |
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I made it easier to read.
My feed back:
1. split your standard scale weapons into 1, 2, or 4 groupings. Makes them better vs aero fighters.
2. Move ALL of your AAA weapons to the nose, broadsides, and aft.
3. Move MOST of your capital weapons to the Front/Rear sides.
You are already grouping you non-missile Cap-weapons in 4 gun clusters so you can optimize with bracketing fire. But moving the guns will reduce your fire control costs by a good margin.
And I would dump the Beagle and ECM. On large scale craft, they offer NO bonus.
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Stinger
The Knights of Chaos
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| Posted: 19-Nov-2017 12:30 Post subject: Casanova class warship |
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Cool. And thank you. It's been so long since I've posted from any heavy metal program I couldn't remember how for a bit. 😁
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Stinger
If it's "creepy" to use the Internet, military satellites, and robot aircraft to find a house full of gorgeous young models so I can drop in on them unexpected, then FINE, I'm "creepy". Howard Wolowitz. BBT.
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 19-Nov-2017 14:05 Post subject: Casanova class warship |
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Class/Model/Name: Casanova --Vagabond Rebuild--
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 350,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Length: 750 meters
Sail Diameter: 967 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
2 Heavy NPPC
14 Barracuda
68 ER PPC
68 Large Pulse Laser
56 Medium Pulse Laser
32 NL35
6 Killer Whale
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Class/Model/Name: Casanova --Vagabond Rebuild--
Mass: 350,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 63,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 8) 158,375.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 3,500.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 3) 48.00
Structural Integrity: 80 28,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 2,149 Double 1,750.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 4,959.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 875.00
Fire Control Computers: 1,948.00
Food & Water: (123 days supply) 403.00
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (608 total armor pts) 560.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 113
Fore-Left/Right: 101/101
Aft-Left/Right: 101/101
Aft: 91
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (6) with 2 doors 900.00
Small Craft (3) with 1 door 600.00
Cargo (1) with 1 door 900.00
Bay 2: Fighters (6) with 2 doors 900.00
Small Craft (3) with 1 door 600.00
Cargo (1) with 1 door 900.00
Bay 3: Fighters (6) with 2 doors 900.00
Sensors/Spy Gear (1) with 2 doors 300.00
Cargo (1) with 1 door 600.00
Bay 4: Cargo (1) with 4 doors 7,598.00
DropShip Capacity: 7 Docking Hardpoints 7,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2: (90-meter diameter) 100.00
Grav Decks #3 - 4: (90-meter diameter) 100.00
Grav Deck #5: (80-meter diameter) 50.00
Life Boats: 60 (7 tons each) 420.00
Escape Pods: 60 (7 tons each) 420.00
Crew and Passengers:
80 Officers (42 minimum) 800.00
100 Crew (35 minimum) 700.00
110 Gunners (86 minimum) 770.00
50 1st Class Passengers 500.00
100 2nd Class Passengers 700.00
100 Marines 500.00
50 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals 350.00
66 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 Heavy NPPC Nose 30 30 30 30 450 6,000.00
2 Barracuda(30 msls) Nose 4 4 4 4 20 1,080.00
2 Barracuda(30 msls) Nose 4 4 4 4 20 1,080.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Nose 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Nose 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Nose 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Nose 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
4 NL35 FL/R 14 14 14 -- 416 5,600.00
4 NL35 FL/R 14 14 14 -- 416 5,600.00
2 Killer Whale(30 msls) FL/R 8 8 8 8 80 3,600.00
2 Barracuda(30 msls) L/RBS 4 4 4 4 40 2,160.00
2 Barracuda(30 msls) L/RBS 4 4 4 4 40 2,160.00
4 ER PPC L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER PPC L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER PPC L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER PPC L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
2 ER PPC L/RBS 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 80 56.00
4 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 80 56.00
4 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 80 56.00
4 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 80 56.00
2 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser L/RBS 2(24) -- -- -- 32 16.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser L/RBS 2(24) -- -- -- 32 16.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser L/RBS 2(24) -- -- -- 32 16.00
4 NL35 AL/R 14 14 14 -- 416 5,600.00
3 NL35 AL/R 11 11 11 -- 312 4,200.00
1 Killer Whale(15 msls) AL/R 4 4 4 4 40 1,800.00
2 NL35 Aft 7 7 7 -- 104 1,400.00
2 Barracuda(30 msls) Aft 4 4 4 4 20 1,080.00
4 ER PPC Aft 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER PPC Aft 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER PPC Aft 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER PPC Aft 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Aft 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Aft 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Aft 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser Aft 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 40 28.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
4 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 16 8.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (5.00%) 17,500.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 4,298 350,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 23,502,597,288 C-Bills
Battle Value: 76,574
Cost per BV: 306,926.6
Weapon Value: 55,290 (Ratio = .72)
Damage Factors: SRV = 3,373; MRV = 2,854; LRV = 1,644; ERV = 622
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 377,481
(121,115 Structure, 174,638 Life Support, 81,728 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 399,480 (106% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
So I moved the weapons, reorganized the cargo as I prefer it in my builds, added some missile ammo, upped the armor, upped the fuel stores to 123 days at 1g, and food stores to 123 days.
The front/boardsides/aft arcs form a 360 degree non-overlapping field of fire. By putting the AAA fire in those arcs you get full coverage with no blind spots. By putting your main guns in the front-side/aft-side arcs, you get over lap on broadside shots but not to front or rear and thus the handful of main guns in the front/rear arcs to cover the blind spots; in most engagements, the enemy is not going to bed directly ahead/behind so the side arcs are supper effective. This freed up over 1,000 tons from the fire control computers as the calculations use the heaviest guns first.
As for the cargo, you have 17k tons of spare parts, 18k of cargo is excessive imho. Its a warship, not a cargo vessel. So I reduced the cargo bays in each launch bay to = 100 tons * (# aero + # small). This represents the fuel/ammunition bunker in each bay. If you need more, pull from the general supplies. Next, most of your surplus cargo will go towards ammo and spare fuel anyway, so I upped the barracuda ammo to 15 shots per and upped the fuel to 123 1g days vs 27 1g days.
That's about it.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 19-Nov-2017 17:07 Post subject: Casanova class warship |
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Wow. That's awesome 😊. Just started playing around with aerospace again. Working on a couple of basic I.S. Jump ship designs. Will post them here soon.
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If it's "creepy" to use the Internet, military satellites, and robot aircraft to find a house full of gorgeous young models so I can drop in on them unexpected, then FINE, I'm "creepy". Howard Wolowitz. BBT.
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 19-Nov-2017 21:34 Post subject: Casanova class warship |
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Yah, aero is fun.. Jumpships are super boring to design.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 20-Nov-2017 10:22 Post subject: Casanova class warship |
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Agreed. That is what has been intriguing to me though. Something about them is really challenging to get right. And if you have fluff that makes work then that helps.
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If it's "creepy" to use the Internet, military satellites, and robot aircraft to find a house full of gorgeous young models so I can drop in on them unexpected, then FINE, I'm "creepy". Howard Wolowitz. BBT.
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