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Zanov Draconis Combine Hojuhei
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Mordel Mordel.Net Administrator
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Posted: 14-Sep-2024 20:47 Post subject: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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Thanks for the kind feedback, and I'm glad you enjoy the site!
I can't really do anything with this myself. Personally I can tell you from experience that my values are usually correct. The problem is the values on the MUL are generally pulled from original record sheets and alpha strike cards.
Ultimately here's what needs to be done for these to get updated, because I'm pretty sure they won't take a large list:
1) Go to the topic in the official forums at https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=80685.0
2) Make a post for each unit (or a few at a time)
3) Highlight the difference and post my BV or PV breakdown in the post
I know they are moving the MUL, and aren't making any updates at the moment, so it may be worth holding onto these until that move happens.
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Zanov Draconis Combine Hojuhei
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Posted: 15-Sep-2024 03:35 Post subject: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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thanks for quick replay.
Yes, i figured it.
I knew they were going to change Master Unit List website but it is taken more time that they adviced, and they could be busy.
Anyway, i will extract the data from your BV and PV calculations and prepare to post in the official forums like you suggested.
Best regards and continue with the great job.
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Mordel Mordel.Net Administrator
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Posted: 15-Sep-2024 08:11 Post subject: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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One other thing to do that helps, if possible, is to check out the same value in MegaMekLab. If they match just post the values and they match. If me and MML have the same values, there's really no discussion needed and they update them pretty quickly.
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Mordel Mordel.Net Administrator
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Posted: 19-Sep-2024 11:14 Post subject: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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The second one is interesting, because it means MML and me are not in sync. Did you look at the breakdowns to see where the differences are coming in? I wonder if it's the same issue causing the discrepancies in all of them.
Submitting the first will be easy because if me and MML agree, they will usually update MUL without question.
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Zanov Draconis Combine Hojuhei
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Posted: 20-Sep-2024 03:31 Post subject: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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Sure, i will check BV breakdown of Mordel and MML ASAP, i will submit what i found.
Best regards.
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Mordel Mordel.Net Administrator
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Posted: 03-Oct-2024 11:48 Post subject: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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Thank you for this! The calculations are likely right, but the difference is likely due to an issue with the design. I'm willing to bet in most cases the error is on my side when the design was created. So, I'll go through this list and review each and update accordingly.
I really appreciate you doing all this data checking, I think it's a great thing!
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Posted: 04-Oct-2024 23:11 Post subject: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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So I was told by a Catalyst Demo organizer that some of the units on the MUL have had their PV altered from official catalyst values. Something to be aware of.
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Mordel Mordel.Net Administrator
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Posted: 05-Oct-2024 13:46 Post subject: Re: Found differences between mordel.net and masterunitlist |
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Vagabond wrote: | So I was told by a Catalyst Demo organizer that some of the units on the MUL have had their PV altered from official catalyst values. Something to be aware of. |
I'm not sure what that means, but the values on the MUL are the official catalyst values. They sometimes don't match originally published values because the originally published stuff was often wrong. But any reprints always pull the latest values from the MUL.
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