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Karagin
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Okay not sure where this should go but the Design area sounds like the best place...
I am looking for ideas for a ship that fills the following requirements:
A ship similar to the old 20th Century Terran Torpedo boats. Has the ability to get in close and unload large amounts of missiles and other high damage weapons and get out again.
Now the other question is which type of ship fits this role...does a small warship fit this better then say a monitor? Or does a dropship (either style) fit it better? Or can this be done with a fighter chassis?
Let's hear some ideas for this and see what you guys come up with.
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Shadowking
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| Posted: 16-Oct-2002 08:01 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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| I think there's a variant of the Neptune sub that has like 6 SRM6's and 1 LRM20. If you're looking for a naval vessel with lots of missiles.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 16-Oct-2002 08:20 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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Space ship...not naval ship...though the sub idea is interesting...
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Hurlbut
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| Posted: 16-Oct-2002 09:08 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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On 2002-10-16 08:01, Shadowking wrote:
I think there's a variant of the Neptune sub that has like 6 SRM6's and 1 LRM20. If you're looking for a naval vessel with lots of missiles.
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If you read just a little bit more, he actualy said WarShip or monitor or fighter chassis, all indications of space crafts 
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Shadowking
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| Posted: 17-Oct-2002 09:00 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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well, isnt a sea naval combat ship also known as a warship? 
And I might add, the 1 and only actual offical btech surface vessel is called the Monitor Not to mention that he referred to old torpedo boats. Soo...
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Hurlbut
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| Posted: 17-Oct-2002 10:14 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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That Monitor you are talking about is a class name not a type. He did also said DropShip. When everyone said WarShips, we all know they are refering to the combat jumpships.
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Jade_Dragon
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| Posted: 17-Oct-2002 12:13 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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I would say a dropship or maybe even some type of combat shuttle, i.e. a 150-200 ton fighter.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 17-Oct-2002 12:24 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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Thanks for the ideas...and yes I am talking about SPACE SHIPS not water naval vessels.
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| Posted: 24-Oct-2002 20:25 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Class/Model/Name: Elco Type 300 Torpedo Monitor
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Monitor (JumpShip Transportable)
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 100,000 tons
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 7
Maximum Thrust: 11
Armor Type: Ferro-carbide
Armament:
32 LB 20-X AC
32 AMS
32 ER PPC
2 Barracuda
8 AR10 Launcher
8 Kraken-T
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Class/Model/Name: Elco Type 300 Torpedo Monitor
Mass: 100,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 42,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 7
Maximum Thrust: 11
Structural Integrity: 330 33,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 500 Double 166.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 2,015.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 250.00
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (100 days supply) 54.50
Armor Type: Ferro-carbide (990 total armor pts) 660.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 181
Fore-Left/Right: 165/165
Aft-Left/Right: 165/165
Aft: 149
Cargo:
Bay 1: Small Craft (2) 400.00
Bay 2: Cargo (1) 448.50
DropShip Capacity: 2 Docking Hardpoints 2,000.00
Grav Deck #1: (98-meter diameter) 50.00
Life Boats: 2 (7 tons each) 14.00
Escape Pods: 2 (7 tons each) 14.00
Crew and Passengers:
17 Officers (17 minimum) 170.00
48 Crew (48 minimum) 336.00
34 Gunners (34 minimum) 238.00
10 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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4 LB 20-X AC(40 rounds) Nose 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 24 64.00
4 AMS(48 rounds) Nose -- -- -- -- 4 6.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
2 Barracuda(20 msls) Nose 4 4 4 4 20 780.00
4 LB 20-X AC(40 rounds) FL/R 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 48 128.00
4 AMS(48 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 8 12.00
4 ER PPC FL/R 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 AR10 (14 KW, 14 WS, 14 B)FL/R * * * * 160 5,360.00
4 Kraken-T(40 msls) FL/R 40 40 40 40 400 9,760.00
4 LB 20-X AC(40 rounds) L/RBS 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 48 128.00
4 AMS(48 rounds) L/RBS -- -- -- -- 8 12.00
4 ER PPC L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 LB 20-X AC(40 rounds) AL/R 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 48 128.00
4 AMS(48 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 8 12.00
4 ER PPC AL/R 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 LB 20-X AC(40 rounds) Aft 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 24 64.00
4 AMS(48 rounds) Aft -- -- -- -- 4 6.00
4 ER PPC Aft 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.50%) 1,500.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 1,284 100,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 368,307,800 C-Bills
Battle Value: 88,804
Cost per BV: 4,147.42
Weapon Value: 56,039 (Ratio = .63)
Damage Factors: SRV = 1,402; MRV = 1,227; LRV = 728; ERV = 270
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 586,980
(266,014 Structure, 215,450 Life Support, 105,516 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 114,341 (19% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
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Something probably not unlike this
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Karagin
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| Posted: 24-Oct-2002 21:50 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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It is close to what I had in mind.
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CO_17thRecon
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| Posted: 24-Oct-2002 22:54 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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How's this? It's a little small, but it packs a respectable punch and some extreme speed.
AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Class/Model/Name: Sledgehammer Assault Ship
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3054
Vessel Type: Aerodyne DropShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 2,500 tons
Length: 87 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 7
Maximum Thrust: 11
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
16 Heavy Gauss Rifle
14 ER Large Laser
6 Light Gauss Rifle
4 ER PPC
4 ER Medium Laser
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Class/Model/Name: Sledgehammer Assault Ship
Mass: 2,500 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 1,137.50
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 7
Maximum Thrust: 11
Structural Integrity: 12 150.00
Total Heat Sinks: 150 Double 94.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 184.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 19.00
Fire Control Computers: 19.00
Food & Water: (68 days supply) 11.50
Armor Type: Standard (912 total armor pts) 54.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 272
Left/Right Wings: 230/230
Aft: 180
Life Boats: 2 (7 tons each) 14.00
Crew and Passengers:
5 Officers (5 minimum) 50.00
21 Crew (0 minimum) 147.00
8 Gunners (8 minimum) 56.00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 Heavy Gauss Rifle(40 rounNose 5(50) 4(40) 2(20) -- 4 46.00
2 Heavy Gauss Rifle(40 rounNose 5(50) 4(40) 2(20) -- 4 46.00
8 ER Large Laser Nose 6(64) 6(64) 6(64) -- 96 40.00
3 Light Gauss Rifle(64 rounNose 2(24) 2(24) 2(24) 2(24) 3 40.00
3 Light Gauss Rifle(64 rounNose 2(24) 2(24) 2(24) 2(24) 3 40.00
4 Heavy Gauss Rifle(80 rounL/RW 10(100) 8(80) 4(40) -- 16 184.00
2 ER PPC L/RW 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER Medium Laser L/RW(A) 1(10) 1(10) -- -- 20 4.00
6 ER Large Laser Aft 5(48) 5(48) 5(48) -- 72 30.00
2 Heavy Gauss Rifle(40 rounAft 5(50) 4(40) 2(20) -- 4 46.00
2 Heavy Gauss Rifle(40 rounAft 5(50) 4(40) 2(20) -- 4 46.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.56%) 14.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 286 2,500.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 739,357,920 C-Bills
Battle Value: 18,459
Cost per BV: 40,054.06
Weapon Value: 12,234 (Ratio = .66)
Damage Factors: SRV = 568; MRV = 390; LRV = 100; ERV = 0
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 36,783
(15,244 Structure, 13,075 Life Support, 8,464 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 37,477 (102% of MPV)
BattleForce2: MP: 7, Armor/Structure: 15 / 15
Damage PB/M/L: 45/39/27, Overheat: 0
Class: DM; Point Value: 185
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Karagin
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| Posted: 24-Oct-2002 22:56 Post subject: RE: Ship Contract... |
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Impressive...
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