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Feral
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 Posted: 16-Nov-2004 09:44 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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On 2004-11-16 02:55, Nightmare wrote:
All that and more. But the real question here is "why do we have Streak missiles"?
Why can't I have a laser that never misses? Or should I say a laser that doesn't fire if it's not a hit? They're much better for that kind of thing, aren't they? Speed of light as muzzle velocity, remember? Why not have a rangefinder function on it so the laser doesn't fire if the target isn't there? 
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Well the answer here is that a missile is capable of somewhat modifying it's flight path while in flight so even if the initial tragectory is off it can correct. A laser needs a perfect initial tragectory, which in the case of a giant 7 ton laser, is probably impossible with the pilot being involved. It's not like you can mount an AC20 on a self-actuating turret, at least not on an 80 ton mech. I could understand this being an option with smaller, lighter weapons ... like machine guns and small lasers, but the larger weapons are just too large to be moved around and computer controlled.
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2004 00:15 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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But the launcher doesn't fire if it's not a hit... That would suggest something else than in-flight course correction.
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Motown Scrapper
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2004 03:10 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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On 2004-11-17 00:15, Nightmare wrote:
But the launcher doesn't fire if it's not a hit... That would suggest something else than in-flight course correction.
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There is first the target is identified and that information is loaded into the missiles guidance system if the information is loaded correctly the systems is activated and the missile is fired and trackss the target .If the system fails to achive a target lock the system does not activate and the missile does not launch
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2004 06:23 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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I still think it would be possible and even common with "Streak" lasers. Just make sure the laser's rangefinder shows about the same range to the target as your targeting system does. Too large difference, no firing.
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bladewind
Free Rasalhague Republic
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2004 06:25 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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But streak lasers might sound too munchy no ? At least with Streaks u have to worry about ammo.... 
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Sir Henry
Team Bansai
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2004 06:32 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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They already have streak Lasers: Pulse Lasers, what more do you want? Fight the battle from behind a computer screen???? 
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Boneshaman
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2004 11:23 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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STREAK AC, LBX, ALL LASERS, MG, FLAMERS, PPC, ATM, MRM, ROCKET LUNCHER'S, UMM... UMM... HELL LET ALL WEAPONS GO STREAKING 
[ This Message was edited by: Boneshaman on 2004-11-17 11:24 ]
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cain
Blighted Sun Battalion
1st Company
"Ralgith's Renegades"
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2004 11:38 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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streak that what the streak are u streakin talkin about are u streakin crazy whatkind of a streakin statement is that streak the streak up
sorry i kinda lost it there its just so streakin hard to keep my temper under con... ahh streak it all anyway 
[ This Message was edited by: cain on 2004-11-17 11:38 ]
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Boneshaman
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| Posted: 18-Nov-2004 00:42 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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| yes yes Streak RAC/20 and Streak Rotary Gauss Rifle with high explosive armor pircing ammo
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 18-Nov-2004 06:59 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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"That why they call him 'The Streak'"
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Paul
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| Posted: 18-Nov-2004 13:00 Post subject: RE: streak LRM |
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On 2004-11-17 06:23, Nightmare wrote:
I still think it would be possible and even common with "Streak" lasers. Just make sure the laser's rangefinder shows about the same range to the target as your targeting system does. Too large difference, no firing.
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I concur. AC's, even if they're guided shells (Like the Precision AC shells) there's no telling beforehand if they're going to hit or miss. Missiles can be fast and maneuverable enough. Lasers and PPCs should then definitely be compatible. If you can figure out that your slow missile can make it at a weird trajectory, you can definitely figure out if a light-speed weapon's going to hit.
So, how to balance that:
Same damage, range and heat.
If the to-hit roll succeeds, resolve damage and heat per normal.
If the to-hit roll fails, do not add the heat for that weapon during the Heat Phase.
Weight: twice as much.
So, is a 14 ton Streak PPC worth it?
Or is it better to have two standard PPCs?
Paul
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