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mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
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Posted: 12-Feb-2005 18:49 Post subject: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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I was perusing the free parts of this book on classicbattletech.com, and noticed in one of the stories they described a pilot moving his 'mech's arm and hand my means of moving his own arm, and having a net of sensors attached to his arm translate his movement into the 'mech's movement...just one of those things that goes against how operating a 'mech has been described up to this point.
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Nightmare Lyran Alliance Kommandant-General
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Posted: 13-Feb-2005 00:07 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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IIRC some mechs are described as having control gauntlets if you wish to use the mech hands for anything finer than bashing stuff.
But sensors for the whole arm? Why, when you can have it all hardwired to the machine keeps arm weapons pointed at a designated target? Unless this net is part of a better control gauntlet for fine operations I don't see what they were thinking.
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 13-Feb-2005 00:42 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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'Mechs with hands DO have control gloves for advanced manipulation of the 'mechs appendages. I remember it from reading some novel or other _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
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Posted: 13-Feb-2005 08:55 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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It did save the guy's life; his 'mech was crashing after a botched hot-drop, and instead of the 'mech's head hitting the ground he brought the arm up and the arm hit instead....seems like a useful trick to block head shots
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 13-Feb-2005 09:08 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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Note that these gloves are NOT for battle use. In battle, a mechwarrior's hands are on his arm-mounted control sticks or are working the control panel in front of him. The gloves are for delicate work, subtle manipulations of the hands and arms. Gross maneuvers like general movement of the arm or making a fist and punching are controlled through a combination of moving the control sticks and a neural interface through the neurohelmet. (so says Christopher Kubasik in Ideal War). _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Ter Kerensky Clan Wolf Point Commander
Joined: 12-Feb-2005 00:00 Posts: 60
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Posted: 13-Feb-2005 09:24 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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Hmmm, an interesting story.Please gimme the link so that i might investigate.
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Rarich Federated Suns Leftenant General
Joined: 05-Feb-2002 00:00 Posts: 991 Location: United States
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Posted: 14-Feb-2005 19:30 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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I have always regarded mechs with hands having a waldo system. For most tasks the simple combat controls are used, but for fine work a set of "virtual reality" gloves are used. Kicks and punches and such could be simple subroutines in the computer, but picking up objects that could be lying anywhere and of varying fragility would require a finer control system.
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mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
Joined: 23-Jul-2002 00:00 Posts: 1618
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 13:53 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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I'd imagine the gloves would have to be equipped with a feedback system that would prevent the pilot from squeezing down too hard if he didn't want to crush whatever he was picking up.
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StarRaven Federated Suns Leftenant General
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 16:06 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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Not a pefect idea. What if he does want to crush it?
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 20:41 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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he can always use his foot.
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Rarich Federated Suns Leftenant General
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 21:36 Post subject: RE: Something I noticed in 3039 Historical |
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Practice, lots of practice.
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