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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
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Posted: 08-Apr-2005 15:52 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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On 2005-04-08 11:56, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
Battlemech is good, but KF drive enabled humanity to get the resources needed to build the mechs (and empires, ... you know).
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BUT the K-F Drive was invented pre-inner sphere therefor it CANNOT be considered the greatest invention of the inner sphere.
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Seraph Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Major
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Posted: 08-Apr-2005 16:32 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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Okay okay. sheesh.
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WhizzbangThePowerSquig Royal Black Watch Regiment Master Sergeant
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Posted: 08-Apr-2005 18:52 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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On 2005-04-08 09:19, Nightmare wrote:
The IS is almost as twisted as the clanners, that's why a weaponry advance is more important.
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I'd have to say that it is humanity in general that is twisted, in such a way that most great developments for civilian use can through military applications (RADAR, superglue, etc).
This isn't just limited to the (fictional) 31st century, but to the world around us today.
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Erenon Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Sergeant
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Posted: 08-Apr-2005 21:06 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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Out of Point (but related to the above):The World Devastators' designer intended them to be tools to mine worlds and build industry.. the Empire turned them into weapons.
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 08-Apr-2005 21:30 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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The above is a reference to Star Wars, for those who don't know.
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-04-08 21:31 ] _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 10-Apr-2005 06:11 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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way to go off-topic guys
but yeah, i should have phased my poll clearer.
P.S. The results is a landslide in favor for DHS. Almost biased i say
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 10-Apr-2005 13:35 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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The Inner Sphere exists because of KF drive. The question stands "Greatest invention ever FOR the IS", not "... made by IS".
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Erenon Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Sergeant
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Posted: 10-Apr-2005 18:00 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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On 2005-04-10 06:11, bladewind wrote:
way to go off-topic guys
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Thank you thank you
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but yeah, i should have phased my poll clearer.
P.S. The results is a landslide in favor for DHS. Almost biased i say
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Clearer? Probably true and yeah... the DHS wins from the look of it... rats.
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 10-Apr-2005 22:08 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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actually i see the KF drive as the Greatest Achievement Ever for ManKind. (tm)
so i dont consider it an IS only invention.
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Horhiro Draconis Combine Samurai
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Posted: 12-Apr-2005 12:30 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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DHS might be the greatest invention for the IS, but it was the worst invention EVER for the Battletech game, closely followed by xl engines and the Guass Rifle, and pulse lasers.
Back in the day (level 1) when you had to actually "account" for heat and deal with its effects, the game was really great. Now its kind of: "two mechs turn the corner...see each other....alpha strike with about 6-10 weapons each....destroy each other.....yawn......."
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" Mech 1: I target you with my 8 pulse lasers, after jumping 11 hexes, yeah you're basically toast"....Mech 2: Oh yeah! I target you with my 4 guass rifles with my targeting computer on your left torso (read: XL engine)..you're toast!"
Do I sound a little bitter?
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Stinger The Knights of Chaos General
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Posted: 12-Apr-2005 13:13 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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Not at all.
Though that is why I dont use the pulse laser I dont mind gauss rifles to much, the xl is ok but I rarely use it any more due to cost
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Seraph Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Major
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Posted: 12-Apr-2005 16:16 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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The high heat outputs of the ER class of energy weapons are a moderate balance for the DHS's though. Also the fact they are 3 times as big.
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 12-Apr-2005 22:40 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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But the fact still remains. Swapping engine single heatsinks for freezers will give u the cooling power equivalent to another 10 tons of single heatsink upgrades.
That's a godsend.
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generalstoner Federated Suns Private
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Posted: 26-Apr-2005 21:56 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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Only a moron would not vote double heatsinks. It took the worst part of the game, right out of the game. _________________ ".... at one hundred yards. Volley fire, present! Fire! Independent, fire at will!"
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Blackhand Draconis Combine Chu-i
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Posted: 26-Apr-2005 22:14 Post subject: RE: Greatest invention ever for the IS ! |
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The C3 Computer is the greatest combat innovation that seemed balanced.
My idea of a broken item is something like the double heat sinks. If someone told you now that double heat sinks are 1.5 times heat sinks. So you only gained 3 dissapation for 2 heat sinks would you still take them in a heart beat.
The answer is a resounding yes. At least if you want ER anything. Pulses are barely more managable.
The Targetting computer or DHS are the most broken things in the universe time line.
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