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PostPosted: 08-Jun-2005 16:56    Post subject: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

Give it a couple of Filmonts and a few Limpets, and this will form the core of one mean battlegroup.

Tell me what you think.



Class/Model/Name:  Reaper 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3072
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              800,000 tons
Hull:              Saroyan Cavalier
K-F Drive System:  KF Mark VIIa
Length:            800 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,134 meters
Power Plant:       Howser 2G2 "Hotfire" Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Blue Nose 440CL Improved Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
   64 NL35
    1 Kraken-T
   96 BlazeFire Sweetshot ER Large Laser
   64 Mainfire Point Defense AMS
   32 Sutel Precision Line Large Pulse Laser
   96 Exostar Medium Pulse Laser
   48 Mydron Excel 5SG LB 5-X AC
    4 Barracuda
Manufacturer:   Yare Shipyards
  Location:     Kathil
Communications System:  Dalban Micronics
Targeting & Tracking System:  GME HiTrak-3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
The Reaper class carrier is a fleet support design, intended to lend firepower
to the battlegroup it is assigned to through the large numbers of fighters it
is capable of carrying.

When the Reaper program started, it was intending to create a large, 1.5
million+ ton assault carrier, Carrying nearly the same number of fighters it
currently possesses, but far more direct firepower. Once the AFFC
Quartermasters got wind of the massive cost, however, the project was
immediately scaled back to its' current tonnage and capabilities.

==Capabilities:==
The Reaper was never designed to operate on its' own, and relies heavily on
other ships for protection. It is not particularly fast, heavily armored, or
well armed, but the amount of firepower its' fighters can bring to bear
against enemy forces makes them very dangerous combatants.

Often the single docking collar is occupied by a Vengeance class dropship,
further enhancing the battlegroup's fighter power. Just as often a Mule,
Mammoth or Behemoth dropship occupies the space, increasing the maximum
deployment time of the fleet.

Twin Howser 2G2 "Hotfire" engines allow the Reaper to keep pace with most
ships, and provide power for the ship's large compliment of energy weapons.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Reaper 
Mass:              800,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      144,000.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 16)               362,000.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 4)                                              70.00
Structural Integrity: 116                                           92,800.00
Total Heat Sinks:    2,693 Double                                    2,112.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                  11,455.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              2,000.00
Fire Control Computers:                                             11,706.00
Food & Water:  (350 days supply)                                     3,376.00
Armor Type:  Improved Ferro-aluminum  (1,186 total armor pts)        1,856.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                221
   Fore-Left/Right:                  197/197
   Aft-Left/Right:                   197/197
   Aft:                                 177

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Fighters (320) with 3 doors                              48,000.00
           Small Craft (4) with 1 door                                 800.00
   Bay 2:  Fighters (320) with 3 doors                              48,000.00
           Small Craft (4) with 1 door                                 800.00
   Bay 3:  Cargo (3) with 2 doors                                    1,200.00

DropShip Capacity:  1 Docking Hardpoints                             1,000.00
Grav Deck #1:  (90-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Grav Deck #2:  (80-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Grav Deck #3:  (90-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Life Boats:  22 (7 tons each)                                          154.00
Escape Pods:  300 (7 tons each)                                      2,100.00

Crew and Passengers:
     64 Officers (60 minimum)                                          640.00
    150 Crew (141 minimum)                                           1,050.00
    130 Gunners (125 minimum)                                          910.00
    252 Marines                                                      1,260.00
     12 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                         84.00
  1,320 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 NL35                     Nose        14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
4 NL35                     Nose        14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
1 Kraken-T(60 msls)        Nose        10     10     10     10   50  6,220.00
4 ER Large Laser           Nose     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   48     20.00
4 ER Large Laser           Nose     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   48     20.00
4 ER Large Laser           Nose     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   48     20.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          Nose        --     --     --     --    4     22.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          Nose        --     --     --     --    4     22.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
4 NL35                     FL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 NL35                     FL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 ER Large Laser           FL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 ER Large Laser           FL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 ER Large Laser           FL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          FL/R        --     --     --     --    8     44.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          FL/R        --     --     --     --    8     44.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 NL35                     L/RBS       14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 NL35                     L/RBS       14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
2 Barracuda(60 msls)       L/RBS        4      4      4      4   40  3,960.00
4 ER Large Laser           L/RBS    3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 ER Large Laser           L/RBS    3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 ER Large Laser           L/RBS    3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          L/RBS       --     --     --     --    8     44.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          L/RBS       --     --     --     --    8     44.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    5(54)  2(18)     --     --   40     28.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           48     24.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    5(54)  2(18)     --     --   40     28.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           48     24.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    5(54)  2(18)     --     --   40     28.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           48     24.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    5(54)  2(18)     --     --   40     28.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           48     24.00
4 NL35                     AL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 NL35                     AL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 ER Large Laser           AL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 ER Large Laser           AL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 ER Large Laser           AL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   96     40.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          AL/R        --     --     --     --    8     44.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          AL/R        --     --     --     --    8     44.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 NL35                     Aft         14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
4 NL35                     Aft         14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
4 ER Large Laser           Aft      3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   48     20.00
4 ER Large Laser           Aft      3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   48     20.00
4 ER Large Laser           Aft      3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   48     20.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          Aft         --     --     --     --    4     22.00
4 AMS(240 rounds)          Aft         --     --     --     --    4     22.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      5(54)  2(18)     --     --   20     14.00
  6 Medium Pulse Laser                                           24     12.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.70%)                                            5,625.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 5,386     800,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,031,469,840 C-Bills
Battle Value:      100,718
Cost per BV:       30,098.59
Weapon Value:      77,909 (Ratio = .77)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 4,101;  MRV = 3,148;  LRV = 2,017;  ERV = 695
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 571,142
                   (196,568 Structure, 276,600 Life Support, 97,974 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 768,600  (135% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable



[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-06-08 16:57 ]
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PostPosted: 09-Jun-2005 19:06    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

*Initiates gentle prodding*

I would have expected at least one reponse from the great shipbuilders Vagabond, Motown, and Karagin.

*Ceases gentle prodding*

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PostPosted: 09-Jun-2005 21:21    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

It's not bad. I'm afraid that that's the best you'll gret out of me here, because a support carrier of this size isn't my style. I prefer the assault carrier concept, a carrier with enough naval grade weapons to protect itself from attack by other WarShips. That frees the carrier's consorts to attack with minimal worries. A single Kirishima in the wrong place is big trouble for this thing.

Three quarrels here.

-Armor. But then, I always say that. I'm a max armor kind of guy, so everything looks lightly armored to me.

-Fighters. I don't think that any single star system would require the deployment of 32 fighter wings. That's 10 full strength and one short regiment.

-Cargo. I'm like you in that I tend to skimp on WarShip cargo space. But this needs a lot more cargo space to support fuel, ordnance, and spare parts for its fighters. A lot more as in tens of thousands of tons. I recall somone recommending 200 tons per fighter, but don't remember who.

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PostPosted: 09-Jun-2005 23:26    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

As someone else has already said, it has to many fighters and not enough cargo.

You do realize that 60 fighters is a regiment [assuming a battalion and regimental command lance.] You can carry 5 of them. In some houses, 5 regiments are the entire Aerospace force.

As for the cargo, Staraven is accurate in that a carrier should carry atleast 200 tons of cargo per fighter. I personly do this at 100 tons for repair parts and 100 tons of ammo.

My other nit picks are this: it only has 1 docking collar when it should have atleast 4, it has Broad Side mounted weapons which are just misplaced on anything other then direct fire warships, you group Anti-Air weapons in to large a group, you place two different weapon sizes and ranges in the same group, you group your naval missiles, and your spare parts size is less then 2 percent.

Your building a support carrier here not a Cruiser or Destroyer. Your broadsides are already covered by your fore and aft side arcs and therefor do not need to be covered further. The only exception to this opinion is when you remove the for and aft side arcs and place there weapons in the front, aft, and broadsides instead. This gives a 360 cover of fire with no coverage overlap.

It is my personel prefrence on weapon mounting and grouping, but i just do not like seeing more then 2 Anti-Air weapons in one group unless those weapons do not combine to cause 1[10] dmg. Anti-Air weapons are more about putting out a curtain of weapons fire more then shear damage. The more groups firing the better. On this same note, i also feel naval missiles should ALWAYS be mounted individually. It just seems right that way. The last thing on this note, it is again my opinion, but i do not like it when weapons of different types and ranges are combined into one bay. This is exampled by you LPL and MPL bays. Split up that fire power so that your damage is consistent over range.

Those are all my nit picks.

Overall, it is a good idea that falls flate because it just won't work in the BT universe. Drop some fighter bays, add cargo, and add docking collars.

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PostPosted: 10-Jun-2005 00:28    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

The Reaper, take II!

Class/Model/Name:  Reaper 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3072
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              550,000 tons
Hull:              Saroyan Cavalier
K-F Drive System:  KF Mark VIIa
Length:            638 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,042 meters
Power Plant:       Howser 2G2 "Hotfire" Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Blue Nose 440CL Improved Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
   48 NL35
    1 Kraken-T
   48 BlazeFire Sweetshot ER Large Laser
   36 Johnston Parti-Cannon PPC
  144 Mydron Excel 5SG LB 5-X AC
  144 Exostar Medium Pulse Laser
    2 AR10 Launcher
    4 Barracuda-T
Manufacturer:   Yare Shipyards
  Location:     Kathil
Communications System:  Dalban Micronics
Targeting & Tracking System:  GME HiTrak-3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
The Reaper class carrier is a fleet support design, intended to lend firepower
to the battlegroup it is assigned to through the large numbers of fighters it
is capable of carrying.

When the Reaper program started, it was intending to create a large, 1.5
million+ ton assault carrier, Carrying nearly the same number of fighters it
currently possesses, but far more direct firepower. Once the AFFC
Quartermasters got wind of the massive cost, however, the project was
immediately scaled back to its' current tonnage and capabilities.

==Capabilities:==
The Reaper was never designed to operate on its' own, and relies heavily on
other ships for protection. It is not particularly fast, heavily armored, or
well armed, but the amount of firepower its' fighters can bring to bear
against enemy forces makes them very dangerous combatants.

Often the docking collars are occupied by Avenger class dropships, further
enhancing the battlegroup's fire power. Just as often Mule, Mammoth or
Behemoth dropships occupy the space, increasing the maximum deployment time of
the fleet.

Twin Howser 2G2 "Hotfire" engines allow the Reaper to keep pace with most
ships, and provide power for the ship's large compliment of energy weapons.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Reaper 
Mass:              550,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                       99,000.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 12)               248,875.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 4)                                              58.00
Structural Integrity: 134                                           73,700.00
Total Heat Sinks:    2,141 Double                                    1,652.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                   8,478.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              1,375.00
Fire Control Computers:                                             10,878.00
Food & Water:  (280 days supply)                                     1,061.00
Armor Type:  Improved Ferro-aluminum  (962 total armor pts)          1,473.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                178
   Fore-Left/Right:                  160/160
   Aft-Left/Right:                   160/160
   Aft:                                 144

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Fighters (30) with 3 doors                                4,500.00
           Small Craft (8) with 1 door                               1,600.00
   Bay 2:  Fighters (30) with 3 doors                                4,500.00
           Small Craft (8) with 1 door                               1,600.00
   Bay 3:  Cargo (3) with 2 doors                                    7,500.00
           Cargo (3) with 2 doors                                    7,500.00

DropShip Capacity:  6 Docking Hardpoints                             6,000.00
Grav Deck #1:  (90-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Grav Deck #2:  (80-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Grav Deck #3:  (90-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Life Boats:  17 (7 tons each)                                          119.00
Escape Pods:  110 (7 tons each)                                        770.00

Crew and Passengers:
     54 Officers (49 minimum)                                          540.00
    120 Crew (101 minimum)                                             840.00
    120 Gunners (117 minimum)                                          840.00
    252 Marines                                                      1,260.00
     12 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                         84.00
    200 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 NL35                     Nose        14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
4 NL35                     Nose        14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
1 Kraken-T(60 msls)        Nose        10     10     10     10   50  6,220.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 PPC                      Nose     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Nose     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Nose     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
4 NL35                     FL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 NL35                     FL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
1 AR10 (20 KW, 40 WS, 50 B)FL/R         *      *      *      *   40  8,700.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 PPC                      FL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      FL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      FL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
1 Barracuda-T(60 msls)     L/RBS        2      2      2      2   20  3,800.00
1 Barracuda-T(60 msls)     L/RBS        2      2      2      2   20  3,800.00
4 NL35                     AL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 NL35                     AL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 PPC                      AL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      AL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      AL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     4(36)     --     --     --   48     24.00
4 NL35                     Aft         14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
4 NL35                     Aft         14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 PPC                      Aft      2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Aft      2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Aft      2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
6 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      4(36)     --     --     --   24     12.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.25%)                                            6,875.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 4,282     550,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        6,877,208,888 C-Bills
Battle Value:      91,434
Cost per BV:       75,215.01
Weapon Value:      71,446 (Ratio = .78)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 3,720;  MRV = 2,628;  LRV = 1,628;  ERV = 542
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 345,304
                   (91,578 Structure, 161,788 Life Support, 91,938 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 656,100  (190% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable


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PostPosted: 10-Jun-2005 01:36    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

Much better. I still would prefear those MPLs to be in 2 gun turrets but that is just me.

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PostPosted: 10-Jun-2005 03:10    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

For some reason, I thought that MPLs only did two points of damage each. I dunno why, but I did. I also added some Anti-Missile Systems.


Class/Model/Name:  Reaper 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3072
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              550,000 tons
Hull:              Saroyan Cavalier
K-F Drive System:  KF Mark VIIa
Length:            638 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,042 meters
Power Plant:       Howser 2G2 "Hotfire" Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Blue Nose 440CL Improved Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
   48 Magna-35 NL35
    1 Kraken-T
   48 BlazeFire Sweetshot ER Large Laser
   36 Johnston Parti-Cannon PPC
  144 Mydron Excel 5SG LB 5-X AC
   24 Mainfire Point Defense AMS
   72 Exostar Medium Pulse Laser
    2 Maelstrom AR10 Launcher
    4 Barracuda-T
Manufacturer:   Yare Shipyards
  Location:     Kathil
Communications System:  Dalban Micronics
Targeting & Tracking System:  GME HiTrak-3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
The Reaper class carrier is a fleet support design, intended to lend firepower
to the battlegroup it is assigned to through the large numbers of fighters it
is capable of carrying.

When the Reaper program started, it was intending to create a large, 1.5
million+ ton assault carrier, Carrying nearly the same number of fighters it
currently possesses, but far more direct firepower. Once the AFFC
Quartermasters got wind of the massive cost, however, the project was
immediately scaled back to its' current tonnage and capabilities.

==Capabilities:==
The Reaper was never designed to operate on its' own, and relies heavily on
other ships for protection. It is not particularly fast, heavily armored, or
well armed, but the amount of firepower its' fighters can bring to bear
against enemy forces makes them very dangerous combatants.

Often the docking collars are occupied by Avenger class dropships, further
enhancing the battlegroup's fire power. Just as often Mule, Mammoth or
Behemoth dropships occupy the space, increasing the maximum deployment time of
the fleet.

Twin Howser 2G2 "Hotfire" engines allow the Reaper to keep pace with most
ships, and provide power for the ship's large compliment of energy weapons.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Reaper 
Mass:              550,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                       99,000.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 12)               248,875.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 4)                                              58.00
Structural Integrity: 133                                           73,150.00
Total Heat Sinks:    2,141 Double                                    1,652.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                   8,732.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              1,375.00
Fire Control Computers:                                             10,836.00
Food & Water:  (280 days supply)                                     1,061.00
Armor Type:  Improved Ferro-aluminum  (956 total armor pts)          1,463.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                177
   Fore-Left/Right:                  159/159
   Aft-Left/Right:                   159/159
   Aft:                                 143

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Fighters (30) with 3 doors                                4,500.00
           Small Craft (8) with 1 door                               1,600.00
   Bay 2:  Fighters (30) with 3 doors                                4,500.00
           Small Craft (8) with 1 door                               1,600.00
   Bay 3:  Cargo (3) with 2 doors                                    7,500.00
           Cargo (3) with 2 doors                                    7,500.00

DropShip Capacity:  6 Docking Hardpoints                             6,000.00
Grav Deck #1:  (90-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Grav Deck #2:  (80-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Grav Deck #3:  (90-meter diameter)                                      50.00
Life Boats:  17 (7 tons each)                                          119.00
Escape Pods:  110 (7 tons each)                                        770.00

Crew and Passengers:
     54 Officers (49 minimum)                                          540.00
    120 Crew (101 minimum)                                             840.00
    120 Gunners (109 minimum)                                          840.00
    252 Marines                                                      1,260.00
     12 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                         84.00
    200 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 NL35                     Nose        14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
4 NL35                     Nose        14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
1 Kraken-T(60 msls)        Nose        10     10     10     10   50  6,220.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Nose     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 PPC                      Nose     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Nose     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Nose     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Nose     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          Nose        --     --     --     --    1     20.50
1 AMS(240 rounds)          Nose        --     --     --     --    1     20.50
1 AMS(240 rounds)          Nose        --     --     --     --    1     20.50
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
4 NL35                     FL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 NL35                     FL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
1 AR10 (20 KW, 40 WS, 50 B)FL/R         *      *      *      *   40  8,700.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           FL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 PPC                      FL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      FL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      FL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    FL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          FL/R        --     --     --     --    2     41.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          FL/R        --     --     --     --    2     41.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          FL/R        --     --     --     --    2     41.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
1 Barracuda-T(60 msls)     L/RBS        2      2      2      2   20  3,800.00
1 Barracuda-T(60 msls)     L/RBS        2      2      2      2   20  3,800.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          L/RBS       --     --     --     --    2     41.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          L/RBS       --     --     --     --    2     41.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          L/RBS       --     --     --     --    2     41.00
4 NL35                     AL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
4 NL35                     AL/R        14     14     14     --  416  5,600.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 ER Large Laser           AL/R     2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   48     20.00
2 PPC                      AL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      AL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
2 PPC                      AL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   40     28.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    AL/R     1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    8    104.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          AL/R        --     --     --     --    2     41.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          AL/R        --     --     --     --    2     41.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          AL/R        --     --     --     --    2     41.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     1(12)     --     --     --   16      8.00
4 NL35                     Aft         14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
4 NL35                     Aft         14     14     14     --  208  2,800.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      2(16)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
2 PPC                      Aft      2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Aft      2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
2 PPC                      Aft      2(20)  2(20)     --     --   20     14.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
4 LB 5-X AC(400 rounds)    Aft      1(12)  1(12)  1(12)     --    4     52.00
1 AMS(240 rounds)          Aft         --     --     --     --    1     20.50
1 AMS(240 rounds)          Aft         --     --     --     --    1     20.50
1 AMS(240 rounds)          Aft         --     --     --     --    1     20.50
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      1(12)     --     --     --    8      4.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.25%)                                            6,875.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 4,018     550,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        6,874,190,480 C-Bills
Battle Value:      90,598
Cost per BV:       75,875.74
Weapon Value:      68,694 (Ratio = .76)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 3,354;  MRV = 2,628;  LRV = 1,628;  ERV = 542
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 343,400
                   (91,018 Structure, 161,788 Life Support, 90,594 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 656,100  (191% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable


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PostPosted: 10-Jun-2005 03:59    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

Honestly, I feel that you now have too few fighters. A Thera carries four regiments of fighters, which is a little much, I think. But I think that 120 fighters would be a good number; two regiments. Enough to guarantee that you have sufficient fighters to do everything you need to do, while not so many as to strip fighters from across the realm.

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PostPosted: 10-Jun-2005 04:29    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well, it is a light carrier. 120 fighters is good, yet it is fine as it is at 60 as a light support carrier. Either way, it is gonna be fine.

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PostPosted: 10-Jun-2005 06:30    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

If you want more fighters, you can get another carrier. They're relatively cheap (even the Fox and Impavido corvettes cost more).


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PostPosted: 03-Sep-2005 16:47    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

Quote:

On 2005-06-09 19:06, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
*Initiates gentle prodding*

I would have expected at least one reponse from the great shipbuilders Vagabond, Motown, and Karagin.

*Ceases gentle prodding*



Gee, thanks for including me in this I've posted several AeroSpace vessels, from the Erian Hendvarden class BattleShip to the Lowly Excellsior class combat JumpShip (A heavily armored JS for use by combat units unable to get their hands on a WarShip).

And yes I know this is an old post, just catching up on stuff I missed during one of my "away" periods before this new one starts and I only have time for the current posts and such.

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PostPosted: 03-Sep-2005 16:53    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

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-Cargo. I'm like you in that I tend to skimp on WarShip cargo space. But this needs a lot more cargo space to support fuel, ordnance, and spare parts for its fighters. A lot more as in tens of thousands of tons. I recall somone recommending 200 tons per fighter, but don't remember who.



I believe I was in on that discussion, or at least read it and agreed in my mind. Comparisions were made to modern day Carriers. I usually (now) place 200-400 tons of cargo space for fighter supplies on any Carrier I design.

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PostPosted: 03-Sep-2005 23:29    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

Wow. Thread-romancy...

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PostPosted: 05-Sep-2005 02:11    Post subject: RE: Reaper Light Carrier Reply to topic Reply with quote

The first version will have problems with launching its fighters: 2 fighters can be launched per door so it will take 54 combat-rounds to get rid of your main weapon! Most engagements will have ended till then or you´ll have to launch your fighters nearly an hour before the fight!

The other versions only need 5 rounds so that is much better!!!

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