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Apparently my definition "hidden" differs from your's, as to me "hidden" in that context means that you can't be seen.
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CampingCarl
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 15:44 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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Quads are great! They are much better for those who can't make piloting rolls(me!). I use quads whenever I can. (Mosh Pit would be cool but nooo...  ) Plus for a Lyran they come in handy for those Heavy Gauss Rifles. I think that for a lack of space they make up for it decently.
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 17:42 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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If you are using heavy weapons then quads are alright. The movement abilities are nice to, but overall I still like the more room of biped mechs.
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Horhiro
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 18:11 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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I like quads. Just don't use them in a simultanious blind movement 1 on 1 game, such as Chihawks PBeM. The lack of a torso twist ability eventually catches up with you.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 19:15 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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A Barghest won last time, and there's one that has a chance of making the semi-finals in this game.
Must be the pilots 
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CampingCarl
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 20:00 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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| What did a Barghest win Chihawk?
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chihawk
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 20:12 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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Casey was piloting a Barghest in the previous e-mail game and won. Pinhead has one in the current game and is fighting Mordel (in a Penatrator) with the winner heading into the semi-finals
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 22:17 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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Yeah, I get the envious distinction of possibly losing to a Barghest in two straight games with the chance for the Semi-Finals on the line. So sad...
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Rarich
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 22:21 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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You already know my opinion. Refit them for cargo carrier duty with the techs. They simply do not have space to mount a decent weapon load. Stability and such, does not fix that shortfall.
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Ruger
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| Posted: 03-May-2002 01:20 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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On 2002-05-02 22:21, Rarich wrote:
You already know my opinion. Refit them for cargo carrier duty with the techs. They simply do not have space to mount a decent weapon load. Stability and such, does not fix that shortfall.
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Really?
I never posted my Barghest Panzer here did I?
Perhaps I should...
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| Posted: 03-May-2002 02:51 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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I dislike quads too, but for a more practical reason, I think. In the very first year I started buying mech minis, well over a decade ago, I bought a scorpion mini.
It is still not assembled. I tried a few times, but it just would not cooperate and I get the feeling buying a Tarantula would be even more aggravating.
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| Posted: 03-May-2002 04:53 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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The standard quads pretty much suck.
Refits for special occasions might be
useful though, such as a Scorpion with
DHS, more armor and 6 Medium Lasers.
Still, they really need turret rules to
give you full value for the money.
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CampingCarl
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| Posted: 03-May-2002 08:42 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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On 2002-05-02 20:12, chihawk wrote:
Casey was piloting a Barghest in the previous e-mail game and won. Pinhead has one in the current game and is fighting Mordel (in a Penatrator) with the winner heading into the semi-finals
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I think that the penetrator will probably win that one though.
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| Posted: 03-May-2002 19:08 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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I have several quad designs on the designs submissions page of the board.Just thought I would let yall know!
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Rarich
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| Posted: 03-May-2002 23:39 Post subject: Give an opinion on Quads |
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Really?
I never posted my Barghest Panzer here did I?
Perhaps I should...
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I would still refit it for a green cadet to drive around for technical supply/ support. The 4 legs give him a cahance to learn the basics of mech piloting without falling over. He will gain some battlefield experience (at least in the pick up after the fight category) and not ding up any REAL mechs.
About the only way to get a quad to match up with regular mechs is to put a long range weapon on them and use turret rules, along with the "hull down" optional rule. Even then you have to overspecialize the mech. Quads are the most guilty of that. either they are short range infighters, or a long range plinker. The short range infighter is stil disadvantaged due to lack of arms. The long range plinker usually doe not have effective short range weapons. I like to specialize mechs somewhat, but I also expect them to do adequately on their own as well.
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