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Warhammer: 3025
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 Posted: 22-Sep-2005 02:29 Post subject: Silver Knight |
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A light picket for larger ships (like the Aegis, Black Lion, etc).
It's small, fast (for a warship), and quite cheap.
Comments/criticsm are always appreciated.
Class/Model/Name: Silver Knight
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 150,000 tons
Hull: Templar X-Plate
K-F Drive System: KF Tri-Mark V
Length: 335 meters
Sail Diameter: 878 meters
Power Plant: Rolls LeFay Standard
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Armor Type: Delhi 9800 Ferro-carbide
Armament:
1 Maelstrom AR10 Launcher
1 Whirlwind-20 NAC/20
16 M-7 Gauss Rifle
2 Ceres-N Medium NPPC
16 Buzzsaw AMS
40 Kinslaughter PPC
16 Lubalin LB 10-X AC
4 KWI Ultra AC/5
4 Magna-45 NL45
24 Selitex Radonic Large Laser
Manufacturer: Delhi Warships
Location: No longer Produced
Communications System: Marcon DIY
Targeting & Tracking System: Delta Trac-VII
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Class/Model/Name: Silver Knight
Mass: 150,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 36,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 5) 67,875.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 3) 38.00
Structural Integrity: 124 18,600.00
Total Heat Sinks: 647 Double 334.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 2,856.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 375.00
Fire Control Computers: 784.00
Food & Water: (298 days supply) 244.00
Armor Type: Ferro-carbide (444 total armor pts) 372.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 81
Fore-Left/Right: 74/74
Aft-Left/Right: 74/74
Aft: 67
Cargo:
Bay 1: Munitions Storage (1) 1,080.00
General Stores (1) 840.00
Fighter Supply Bay (1) 1,200.00
Bay 2: Fighters (6) with 3 doors 900.00
DropShip Capacity: 1 Docking Hardpoints 1,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2: (90-meter diameter) 100.00
Life Boats: 14 (7 tons each) 98.00
Escape Pods: 30 (7 tons each) 210.00
Crew and Passengers:
20 Officers (18 minimum) 200.00
60 Crew (55 minimum) 420.00
30 Gunners (28 minimum) 210.00
42 Marines 210.00
12 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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1 AR10 (20 KW, 50 B) Nose * * * * 20 2,750.00
1 NAC/20(60 rounds) Nose 20 20 20 -- 60 2,524.00
8 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Nose 12(120)12(120)12(120) -- 8 140.00
8 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Nose 12(120)12(120)12(120) -- 8 140.00
1 Medium NPPC FL/R 9 9 9 9 270 3,600.00
2 AMS(40 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 4 42.00
2 AMS(40 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 4 42.00
5 PPC FL/R 5(50) 5(50) -- -- 100 70.00
5 PPC FL/R 5(50) 5(50) -- -- 100 70.00
4 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds) FL/R 2(24) 2(24) -- -- 16 128.00
4 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds) FL/R 2(24) 2(24) -- -- 16 128.00
2 Ultra AC/5(400 rounds) FL/R 1(14) 1(14) 1(14) -- 8 76.00
2 NL45 AL/R 9 9 9 9 280 3,600.00
2 AMS(40 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 4 42.00
2 AMS(40 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 4 42.00
5 PPC AL/R 5(50) 5(50) -- -- 100 70.00
5 PPC AL/R 5(50) 5(50) -- -- 100 70.00
4 Large Laser AL/R 3(32) 3(32) -- -- 64 40.00
4 Large Laser AL/R 3(32) 3(32) -- -- 64 40.00
4 Large Laser AL/R 3(32) 3(32) -- -- 64 40.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.60%) 2,400.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 1,294 150,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,460,504,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 47,085
Cost per BV: 52,256.65
Weapon Value: 35,457 (Ratio = .75)
Damage Factors: SRV = 1,470; MRV = 1,240; LRV = 508; ERV = 171
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 275,291
(151,927 Structure, 86,988 Life Support, 36,376 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 245,250 (89% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
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Delta
Lyran Alliance
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| Posted: 22-Sep-2005 17:14 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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Ah yes, a picket ship. They tend to be gigantic dropships with naval firepower added in.
Its quite cheap and portable. I like.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 22-Sep-2005 18:23 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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See this is what drives me crazy. The price on this is the same as a 555 ton naval vessel. It is a perfect example of how certin parts of the universe are a bit more flawed then others.
Grear ship by the way.
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 22-Sep-2005 21:20 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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I like my light ships to move faster, but besides that this is great. I like the idea of a WarShip picket for a larger ship, it works out better than a DropShip would.
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On 2005-09-22 18:23, Stinger wrote:
See this is what drives me crazy. The price on this is the same as a 555 ton naval vessel.
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That's what happens when you try to pack in a large XXL engine. I have a 150 million c-bill assault Omni, all because of the XXL. It's really totally insane. You might want to try vessels 400 tons or lighter. The presence of a normal engine, instead of a large one, will give you a more decent price, even if you use an XL or XXL. And you won't lose much tonnage, since large engines get too big too fast - even the XXLs - to be of any real use at all, anywhere.
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ralgith
Blighted Sun Battalion
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| Posted: 23-Sep-2005 02:13 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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On 2005-09-22 21:20, StarRaven wrote:
That's what happens when you try to pack in a large XXL engine. I have a 150 million c-bill assault Omni, all because of the XXL. It's really totally insane. You might want to try vessels 400 tons or lighter. The presence of a normal engine, instead of a large one, will give you a more decent price, even if you use an XL or XXL. And you won't lose much tonnage, since large engines get too big too fast - even the XXLs - to be of any real use at all, anywhere.
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I agree, the Large Engines gain weight on a much much higher curve than normal ones. And in BT any naval asset should be small and fast. Otherwise they die. Or be a sub, which is mostly what I use. Only other thing I used was a 400 ton LB 2-X carrier that also sported a quad of Arrow IV launchers with 15 missiles each  she was slow, but looooooong ranged.
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Rudel Gurken
Allisters Light Thunder
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| Posted: 23-Sep-2005 02:40 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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If you like to construct (Wet) Naval Vehicles above 300 tons don´t use the BMR or MaxTech-rules but get your hands on Combat Equipment!
Examples:
Königsberg Light Cruiser 7500 tons
Move 4/6
Armorfactor 460
9 AC/10
6 AC/5
8 MC
12 LRT-20
Admiral Hipper Heavy Cruiser 18000 tons
Move 4/6
Armorfactor 984
8 Thumper Artillery
12 AC/5
12 MC
12 LRT-20
Helipad with 3 VTOL´s
Tirpitz Battleship 50000 tons
Move 3/5
Armorfactor 2587
8 Long Tom Artillery
12 AC/10
16 AC/5
16 MC
8 LRT-20
Helipad with 6 VTOL´s
[ This Message was edited by: Rudel Gurken on 2005-09-23 05:02 ]
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Delta
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| Posted: 23-Sep-2005 07:47 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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| I wonder how many Long Toms I could fit onto the biggest one they make...(Combat Equipment ships)
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ralgith
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| Posted: 23-Sep-2005 11:56 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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On 2005-09-23 02:40, Rudel Gurken wrote:
If you like to construct (Wet) Naval Vehicles above 300 tons don´t use the BMR or MaxTech-rules but get your hands on Combat Equipment!
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Why when HM Vee will have the combat equipment stuff too? 
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| Posted: 23-Sep-2005 14:02 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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If you're talking about the Support Vehicle rules, Rick says that's going to get its' own program: HeavyMetal Support/Utility Vehicle (SUV).
It's planned, but I don't think it's been started yet.
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-09-23 14:03 ]
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ralgith
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| Posted: 24-Sep-2005 02:14 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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On 2005-09-23 14:02, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
If you're talking about the Support Vehicle rules, Rick says that's going to get its' own program: HeavyMetal Support/Utility Vehicle (SUV).
It's planned, but I don't think it's been started yet.
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I thought naval vessels were gonna stay in HM Vee and just be able to use the CE rules. But if they go into HM SUV I don't really care since I'll get that too
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Stinger
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| Posted: 24-Sep-2005 03:36 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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I guess the problem I have is the rules shouldnt have been that way to begin with.
But agreed Ill end up getting that as well.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 24-Sep-2005 03:37 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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Hmm I would like to see some with light naval cannons.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 24-Sep-2005 10:57 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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On 2005-09-23 11:56, ralgith wrote:
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On 2005-09-23 02:40, Rudel Gurken wrote:
If you like to construct (Wet) Naval Vehicles above 300 tons don´t use the BMR or MaxTech-rules but get your hands on Combat Equipment!
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Why when HM Vee will have the combat equipment stuff too?
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You can add some of the stuff in via the weapons editor deal in all of the HM products...just wish Rick had gone with unlimited space for the custom weapons.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 24-Sep-2005 14:05 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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Same
I have filled mine up long ago.
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 24-Sep-2005 14:14 Post subject: RE: Silver Knight |
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"Hey Bob, want my Custom Weapons files?"
"Sure, Bill!"
*400MB later*
"It's about 1/5 of the way there, Bob!"
"zzzzzzzzz"
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