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Karagin
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Okay, here is an older vehicle I was working with and I am looking for ideas for the fluff. If anyone can help please feel free to post some fluff ideas.
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: PzKFw IV Ausf D
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 2-FA, Standard design
Mass: 20 tons
Power Plant: 120 Maybach Fusion
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor Type: Ceramic Alloy Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Harmony Mk. I Heavy Large Laser
1 Armstrong Small Small Laser
Manufacturer: Borsig Industries
Location: Terridine
Communications System: Emees 100
Targeting & Tracking System: Egam 3000
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Type/Model: PzKFw IV Ausf D
Mass: 20 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 10 pts Standard 0 2.00
Engine: 120 Fusion 0 4.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.00
Cruise MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 1.00
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Armor Factor: 90 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 5.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 2 28
Left / Right Sides: 2 17/17
Rear: 2 10
Turret: 2 18
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Large Laser Turret 8 1 5.00
1 Small Laser Front 1 1 .50
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TOTALS: 9 4 20.00
Items & Tons Left: 5 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 484,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 298
Cost per BV: 1,625.84
Weapon Value: 171 / 171 (Ratio = .57 / .57)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 8; MRDmg = 4; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 6T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 3
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 15-Nov-2005 08:49 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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A high tech PzKpfw IV but not too costly!
The large laser is a potent mainweapon able to do some serious damage for a 20t tank!
The small laser can easily be replaced by a ER version!
(A small pulse will resemble a MG for anti infantry fire but will cost you 0,5t of armor)
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| Posted: 15-Nov-2005 13:27 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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=== Overview ===
With the power and strength of threats growing in the Inner Sphere, the various Successor States decided that an across the board upgrade was necessary for all aspects of the armed forces. For nearly ten years the BattleMech had recieved the lion's share of funding for upgrades.
A tenuous peace brought the oppertunity for the conventional arms to catch up.
The Lyran Alliance has introduced a very interesting light tank, seen by many to be a prime example of advanced tank engineering, done with reliable technology.
Although this design doesn't break any new ground in technological breakthroughs, it does make a number of interesting developments for the light tank class.
=== Capabilities ===
Capable of high speed, high damage output, and long life on the battlefield, the PzKFw IV Ausf D is a stunning combination of fusion engine, weapon, and armor. These three elements have been perfectly balanced to create an ammazing combat machine.
The main component of the PzKFw IV Ausf D is the fusion engine. Redesigned based on captured Clan engines, the new model is slightly more efficient, offering a power increase of about 10.2% over the standard Inner Sphere design, this engine is efficient, with a long life and effective battlefield performance. It produces enough power to run all the major systems of the tank, as well as having plenty of power left over to funnel through the primary weapon.
Further, the engine is 5% more compact. This extra space was used to expand the crew cabin, allowing more room with less chance of hitting an elbow or knee when moving quickly. During trials, test crews also commented that in the event of the tank catching fire, escape was far easier with the wider crew cabin.
The use of advanced armor was a brilliant inovation which increased the armor coverage while reducing weight. Many tank crews, long afraid of some of the heavier arms of infantry, have commented that they feel greatly protected wading through that fire as other tanks fall back.
=== Deployment ===
Currently the PzKFw IV Ausf D is being deployed along border worlds with the Free Worlds League. Other States are deploying similiar weapons technology, especially the Free Worlds League. The Lyran Alliance has decided that they should make a strong showing to discourage any military adventurism.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 15-Nov-2005 19:27 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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Nice!
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Erenon
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| Posted: 15-Nov-2005 19:50 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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I like.. Nice fluff too..
It's simple, it's relatively inexpensive and i think it can kill a stinger or wasp.. 
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| Posted: 16-Nov-2005 00:46 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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I really really lke this.
Having said that, I wouldn't mind seeing an SRM version as well. Lots of hovertanks that could take a direct Large Laser hit will be a lot more scared of SRMs.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 16-Nov-2005 02:42 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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Most hovers won't have problems with sending few SRMs back to you or staying out of range.
I wouldn't give it the name (aehm) of WWII tank, but the vehicle looks really nice.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 16-Nov-2005 03:55 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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Maybe take the short term "Panzer IV".
But you have to construct the Panzer I to III in this tech!
btw: PzKpfw means Panzerkampfwagen (Armored Combat Car)
[ This Message was edited by: Rudel Gurken on 2005-11-16 03:57 ]
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| Posted: 16-Nov-2005 15:09 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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Yes, I know, but still these two vehicles don't have much in common with each other (except weight, name and purpose of course)
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Karagin
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| Posted: 16-Nov-2005 19:19 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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How so? The WW2 one had a 50mm gun mid range weapon, the one I made has Large Laser mid range weapon compare to some of the ones it could have gone with...
Speed and armor are compariable taking into account tech differences and time frames.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2005 02:40 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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The Panzer III had a 50 mm gun.
The Panzer IV started with a snub nosed 75 mm till Ausf. F1 and later (F2,G,H,J ) had a 75 mm longbarrel gun able to fire armorpiercing rounds. 
(Yes! I´ve some literature about WW II tanks, ships and aircrafts!)
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2005 05:31 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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Two books I have on the PzIV mention that it started out with a 50mm, same as the PzIII, and then went to the 75mm for production.
Either way the Large Laser can fit the role for the main gun since it is a mid range weapon, by that I mean decent range for the damage.
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2005 07:05 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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On 2005-11-17 05:31, Karagin wrote:
Two books I have on the PzIV mention that it started out with a 50mm, same as the PzIII, and then went to the 75mm for production.
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The Pz III was the "anti tank tank" and the Pz IV the "heavy infantry support tank" firing his snub nosed 75 mm with HE shells.
It never carried a gun smaller than 75 mm.
Later it was equiped with a longbarrel 75 mm to fire armorpiercing rounds to become the standard "main battle tank"
My book lists all german tanks from 1929 to 1945 with all versions, tankhunters , selfpropelled guns etc. and with technical data for all variants.
The Pz III started with a 37 mm gun that was changed against a 50 mm at 1940/41.
A single variant carried the same snub nosed 75 mm like the Pz IV.
All production models of the Pz IV had a 75 mm cannon. Maybe a prototyp had a 50 mm but I don´t think so.
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Either way the Large Laser can fit the role for the main gun since it is a mid range weapon, by that I mean decent range for the damage.
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I too think the large laser is the best weapon here because AC´s are too heavy for a tank as light as this.
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2005 08:45 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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Well there are always Light Autocannons.
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| Posted: 17-Nov-2005 09:55 Post subject: RE: PzKFw IV Ausf D |
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On 2005-11-16 19:19, Karagin wrote:
How so? The WW2 one had a 50mm gun mid range weapon, the one I made has Large Laser mid range weapon compare to some of the ones it could have gone with...
Speed and armor are compariable taking into account tech differences and time frames.
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Those tech differences are the reason why I wouldn't call it PzKpfw IV, or at least different variant than D. Mentioning that it is loosely based on that tank is okay, but it isn't the same tank. And to the armament my material always show 75 mm gun on PzKpfw IV and D has two MGs.
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