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Warhammer: 3025
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No fluff, no real reason for existence. I just wanted to make it.
Type/Model: Crowd Oppression Vehicle
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 35 tons
Power Plant: 140 Various I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Various Standard
Armament:
4 Machine Guns
4 Flamer (Vehicle)s
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Crowd Oppression Vehicle
Mass: 35 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 20 pts Standard 0 3.50
Engine: 140 I.C.E. 0 10.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.00
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Armor Factor: 88 pts Standard 0 5.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 4 26
Left / Right Sides: 4 16/16
Rear: 4 14
Turret: 4 16
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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2 Machine Guns Front 0 300 3 2.50
1 Machine Gun Right 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Left 0 1 .50
4 Flamer (Vehicle)s Turret 0 120 5 8.00
1 Bulldozer Front 1 2.00
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TOTALS: 0 11 35.00
Items & Tons Left: 1 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 407,250 C-Bills
Battle Value: 157
Cost per BV: 2,593.95
Weapon Value: 41 / 41 (Ratio = .26 / .26)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 4
Damage PB/M/L: 2/-/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 2
Specials: eng
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Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
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Oafman
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 10-Dec-2005 14:37 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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I like the idea but I would move at least 1 flamer from the turret to the front and move that MG to the turret. It is a bit slow, but since this really should only be attacking infantry it makes sense. A couple of these would be fun cleaning out forrests and cities. Just becareful with those flamers. Don't get trapped by your own fires.
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McBride
Draconis Combine
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Joined: 06-Nov-2004 00:00
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: 10-Dec-2005 18:13 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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| Could just roll up to the government building and just let the rioters try and depose you. Actually kind of reminds me of the Kurita variant of the Goblin, with the 360 degree MG fire (similarity ends there pretty much).
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Delta
Lyran Alliance
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| Posted: 10-Dec-2005 20:13 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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| I like it. However...I'd suggest mounting 2 additional mgs in the turret...however, you'd probally haveta upgrade to a fusion engine...
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 10-Dec-2005 20:38 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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On 2005-12-10 14:37, Oafman wrote:
I like the idea but I would move at least 1 flamer from the turret to the front and move that MG to the turret. It is a bit slow, but since this really should only be attacking infantry it makes sense. A couple of these would be fun cleaning out forrests and cities. Just becareful with those flamers. Don't get trapped by your own fires.
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It's not attacking infantry. It's attacking protesters/rioters. Preferably after cutting off all their routes of escape.
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On 2005-12-10 18:13, McBride wrote:
Could just roll up to the government building and just let the rioters try and depose you. Actually kind of reminds me of the Kurita variant of the Goblin, with the 360 degree MG fire (similarity ends there pretty much).
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That's the idea precisely. I also made a variant with twin SRM6s in place of the flamers, to take advantage of the Frag missiles.
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On 2005-12-10 20:13, Delta wrote:
I like it. However...I'd suggest mounting 2 additional mgs in the turret...however, you'd probally haveta upgrade to a fusion engine...
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Not as intimidating. One of the weapons of the vehicle is purely psychological. It's a lot scarier to hear a 35-ton armored slaughter machine rev its engine a few times before it starts to advance (and, you know, kill everybody).
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Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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McBride
Draconis Combine
Shujin
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: 10-Dec-2005 22:23 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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On 2005-12-10 20:38, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
That's the idea precisely. I also made a variant with twin SRM6s in place of the flamers, to take advantage of the Frag missiles.
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The Kurita Goblin packs a pair of SRM-6s, as well (for those not familiar). The benefit the Goblin has over this evil piece of work is the 3 ton infantry bay. Yes, it's more expensive and lacks the flamers, but it can serve as an escort for the despot himself while surveying the countryside, or serve to deliver your secret police to make people disappear. I think that this machine and the Kurita Goblin would make a nice combination for any despotic ruler. Add in some light mechs, like Firestarters, and you could really sow terror.
Another nice weapon alternative would be grenade launchers with gas grenades. Don't have to use lethal gas, just something debilitating. Or just smoke and watch them flee in terror as your shock troopers march out of the "fog".
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Delta
Lyran Alliance
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Joined: 11-Dec-2004 00:00
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| Posted: 11-Dec-2005 20:34 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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On 2005-12-10 20:38, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
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On 2005-12-10 14:37, Oafman wrote:
I like the idea but I would move at least 1 flamer from the turret to the front and move that MG to the turret. It is a bit slow, but since this really should only be attacking infantry it makes sense. A couple of these would be fun cleaning out forrests and cities. Just becareful with those flamers. Don't get trapped by your own fires.
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It's not attacking infantry. It's attacking protesters/rioters. Preferably after cutting off all their routes of escape.
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On 2005-12-10 18:13, McBride wrote:
Could just roll up to the government building and just let the rioters try and depose you. Actually kind of reminds me of the Kurita variant of the Goblin, with the 360 degree MG fire (similarity ends there pretty much).
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That's the idea precisely. I also made a variant with twin SRM6s in place of the flamers, to take advantage of the Frag missiles.
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On 2005-12-10 20:13, Delta wrote:
I like it. However...I'd suggest mounting 2 additional mgs in the turret...however, you'd probally haveta upgrade to a fusion engine...
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Not as intimidating. One of the weapons of the vehicle is purely psychological. It's a lot scarier to hear a 35-ton armored slaughter machine rev its engine a few times before it starts to advance (and, you know, kill everybody).
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Twice the weight, three times the cost, five times the fun...
Edit- I know the original is tracked. Wheeled to save weight and cost...not to mention the fact you can have some sick wheel scythes with the leftover 20KG 
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Crowd Opression Vehicle MKII
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Wheeled Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 70 tons
Power Plant: 260 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
8 Machine Guns
4 Flamer (Vehicle)s
3 SRM 4s
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Crowd Opression Vehicle MKII
Mass: 70 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 42 pts Standard 0 7.00
Engine: 260 I.C.E. 0 27.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.50
Crew: 5 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 .60
Sponson Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Armor Factor: 134 pts Standard 0 8.38
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 7 28
Left / Right Sides: 7 22/22
Rear: 7 18
Turret: 7 22
Turret #2: 7 22
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Machine Gun Front 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Rear 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Lf_Spon 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Rt_Spon 0 1 .50
2 Machine Guns Turret 0 2 1.00
2 Flamer (Vehicle)s Turret 0 2 1.00
2 Machine Guns Turret2 0 600 3 4.00
2 Flamer (Vehicle)s Turret2 0 80 3 5.00
1 SRM 4 Lf_Spon 0 1 2.00
1 SRM 4 Rt_Spon 0 1 2.00
1 SRM 4 Turret2 0 50 2 4.00
1 Bulldozer Front 1 2.00
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TOTALS: 0 19 69.98
Items & Tons Left: 0 .02
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,158,480 C-Bills
Battle Value: 353
Cost per BV: 3,281.81
Weapon Value: 337 / 337 (Ratio = .95 / .95)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 19; MRDmg = 2; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 4W, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: 4/2/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 4
Specials: eng
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 11-Dec-2005 20:44 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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That. is. AWESOME.
Let them try to stop our Legions of Terror now! 
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Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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mud
Draconis Combine
Tai-sho
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| Posted: 11-Dec-2005 21:25 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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and you two even have Bulldozers for cleaning the streets of dead rioters. that just rocks! 
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Sleeping Dragon
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Location: Czech Republic
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| Posted: 12-Dec-2005 04:09 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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Why bulldozer, when there is combine?
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 12-Dec-2005 04:41 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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On 2005-12-12 04:09, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
Why bulldozer, when there is combine?
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Type/Model: Crowd Oppression Vehicle Mk III
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Wheeled Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 220 Various I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Various Standard
Armament:
4 Machine Guns
2 SRM 6s
2 Logger Chainsaws
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Crowd Oppression Vehicle Mk III
Mass: 60 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 30 pts Standard 0 6.00
Engine: 220 I.C.E. 0 20.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.00
Crew: 4 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.00
Armor Factor: 104 pts Standard 0 6.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 6 31
Left / Right Sides: 6 21/21
Rear: 6 14
Turret: 6 17
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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2 Machine Guns Front 0 300 3 2.50
1 Machine Gun Right 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Left 0 1 .50
2 SRM 6s Turret 0 30 3 8.00
1 Logger Chainsaw Front 0 1 5.00
1 Logger Chainsaw Front 0 1 5.00
1 Bulldozer Front 1 2.00
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TOTALS: 0 11 60.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,125,150 C-Bills
Battle Value: 280
Cost per BV: 4,018.39
Weapon Value: 218 / 218 (Ratio = .78 / .78)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 15; MRDmg = 2; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 4W, Armor/Structure: 0 / 4
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 3
Specials: eng
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Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 12-Dec-2005 04:55 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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Well, now you can shred them and than just push aside maybe having only one saw and some flamers?  (pure provocation  )
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mud
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| Posted: 12-Dec-2005 14:33 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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it ought to be 100 tons too 
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Delta
Lyran Alliance
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| Posted: 12-Dec-2005 17:07 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
* CUSTOM WEAPON
Type/Model: Rolling Death Machine
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Wheeled Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 80 tons
Power Plant: 220 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
2 Vibro-LoggerChainsaws*
8 Machine Guns
4 Flamer (Vehicle)s
3 SRM 6s
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Rolling Death Machine
Mass: 80 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 48 pts Standard 0 8.00
Engine: 220 I.C.E. 0 20.00
Cruise MP: 3
Flank MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 4.00
Crew: 6 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 .70
Sponson Turret Equipment: 0 .70
Armor Factor: 120 pts Standard 0 7.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 8 25
Left / Right Sides: 8 20/20
Rear: 8 15
Turret: 8 20
Turret #2: 8 20
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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2 Vibro-LoggerChainsaws* Front 0 2 10.00
2 Machine Guns Turret 0 2 1.00
2 Machine Guns Turret2 0 2 1.00
1 Machine Gun Front 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Rear 0 800 2 4.50
2 Flamer (Vehicle)s Turret 0 2 1.00
2 Flamer (Vehicle)s Turret2 0 80 3 5.00
1 SRM 6 Lf_Spon 0 1 3.00
1 SRM 6 Rt_Spon 0 1 3.00
1 SRM 6 Turret2 0 60 2 7.00
1 Machine Gun Lf_Spon 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Rt_Spon 0 1 .50
1 Bulldozer Front 1 2.00
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TOTALS: 0 21 79.90
Items & Tons Left: 0 .10
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,778,887 C-Bills
Battle Value: 400
Cost per BV: 4,447.22
Weapon Value: 369 / 369 (Ratio = .92 / .92)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 25; MRDmg = 3; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 3W, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: 5/2/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GA; Point Value: 4
Specials: eng
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Oafman
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 12-Dec-2005 18:49 Post subject: RE: For the despot in all of us |
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Infantry, rioters, terorists... The only difference to the driver is which section of the form he fills out fter the fight.
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