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PostPosted: 13-Jan-2006 18:37    Post subject: Gemini Frigate Reply to topic Reply with quote

A smallish design I made for personal use over at New Solaris.


Class/Model/Name:  Gemini 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3060
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 3, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              690,000 tons
Hull:              Grelanda TitanForged
K-F Drive System:  KF Tiger IV
Length:            725 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,094 meters
Power Plant:       Rolls-Lefay Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Grelanda HephaestusCast Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:          
    4 Formian Heavy-Rail Heavy N-Gauss
    2 Formian Multi-Chamber AR10 Launcher
   16 Formian 500mm Auto NAC/30
    8 Silamor Star-Lazer Mk 4 NL55
   12 Silamor Super-N Particle Cannon Medium NPPC
   80 Formian 88mm Flak LB 10-X AC
   96 Silamor High-Beam II ER Large Laser
   16 Silamor CIAML Laser AMS
    8 Silamor Ultra-N Particle Cannon Heavy NPPC
Manufacturer:   Grelanda Aerospace
  Location:     Various
Communications System:  Apollo Pulse-Comm
Targeting & Tracking System:  Deep-Scan HiRez Mk-51
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Gemini 
Mass:              690,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      124,200.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 14)               312,225.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 4)                                 64.00
Structural Integrity: 78                                            53,820.00
Total Heat Sinks:    3,570 Double                                    3,027.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                   8,472.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              1,725.00
Fire Control Computers:                                             17,560.00
Food & Water:  (260 days supply)                                       504.00
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.00
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (1,124 total armor pts)         1,076.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                208
   Fore-Left/Right:                  187/187
   Aft-Left/Right:                   187/187
   Aft:                                 168

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  General Stores (1)                                          840.00
           Munitions Storage (2)                                     6,200.00
   Bay 2:  Small Craft (6) with 1 door                               1,200.00
           Small Craft Supply Bay (1)                                  750.00

DropShip Capacity:  4 Docking Hardpoints                             4,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2:  (120-meter diameter)                               200.00
Grav Decks #3 - 4:  (90-meter diameter)                                100.00
Grav Decks #5 - 6:  (120-meter diameter)                               200.00
Life Boats:  1 (7 tons each)                                             7.00
Escape Pods:  38 (7 tons each)                                         266.00

Crew and Passengers:
     72 Officers (50 minimum)                                          720.00
    140 Crew (111 minimum)                                             980.00
     98 Gunners (82 minimum)                                           686.00
     48 Marines                                                        240.00
     30 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Heavy N-Gauss(60 rounds) Nose        60     60     60     60   36 14,030.00
2 Heavy N-Gauss(60 rounds) Nose        60     60     60     60   36 14,030.00
2 AR10 (26 KW, 60 B)       Nose         *      *      *      *   40  3,600.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        FL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        FL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NL55                     FL/R        11     11     11     11  340  4,400.00
3 Medium NPPC              FL/R        27     27     27     27  810 10,800.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  FL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  FL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
8 ER Large Laser           FL/R     6(64)  6(64)  6(64)     --  192     80.00
8 ER Large Laser           FL/R     6(64)  6(64)  6(64)     --  192     80.00
8 ER Large Laser           FL/R     6(64)  6(64)  6(64)     --  192     80.00
2 Laser AMS                FL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
2 Laser AMS                FL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
2 Heavy NPPC               L/RBS       30     30     30     30  900 12,000.00
2 Heavy NPPC               L/RBS       30     30     30     30  900 12,000.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        AL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        AL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NL55                     AL/R        11     11     11     11  340  4,400.00
3 Medium NPPC              AL/R        27     27     27     27  810 10,800.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  AL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  AL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
8 ER Large Laser           AL/R     6(64)  6(64)  6(64)     --  192     80.00
8 ER Large Laser           AL/R     6(64)  6(64)  6(64)     --  192     80.00
8 ER Large Laser           AL/R     6(64)  6(64)  6(64)     --  192     80.00
2 Laser AMS                AL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
2 Laser AMS                AL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.00%)                                            6,900.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 7,316     690,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        8,444,152,440 C-Bills
Battle Value:      219,351
Cost per BV:       38,496.07
Weapon Value:      100,340 (Ratio = .46)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 9,061;  MRV = 8,752;  LRV = 6,411;  ERV = 2,431
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 510,351
                   (63,861 Structure, 174,822 Life Support, 271,668 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 708,750  (139% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable


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PostPosted: 14-Jan-2006 17:23    Post subject: RE: Gemini Frigate Reply to topic Reply with quote

A solid little frigate. I'd use it in my fleet.
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PostPosted: 25-Jan-2006 21:07    Post subject: RE: Gemini Frigate Reply to topic Reply with quote

As is my norm, might i suggest these changes to improve your design...

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  Gemini Mk2 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3060
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 3, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              690,000 tons
Hull:              Grelanda Titan Forged
K-F Drive System:  KF Tiger IV
Length:            725 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,094 meters
Power Plant:       Rolls-Lefay Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Grelanda Hephaestus Cast Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:          
    4 Formian Heavy-Rail Heavy N-Gauss
    2 Formian Multi-Chamber AR10 Launcher
   80 Formian 88mm Flak LB 10-X AC
   80 Silamor Scatter-Shot Large Pulse Laser
   20 Silamor CIAML Laser AMS
   16 Formian 500mm NAC/30
    8 Silamor Star-Lazer Mk4 NL55
   12 Silamor Super-N Medium NPPC
    8 Silamor Ultra-N Heavy NPPC
Manufacturer:   Grelanda Aerospace
  Location:     Various
Communications System:  Apollo Pulse-Comm
Targeting & Tracking System:  Deep-Scan HiRez Mk-51
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Gemini Mk2 
Mass:              690,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      124,200.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 14)               312,225.00
Lithium Fusion Battery                                               6,900.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 4)                                 64.00
Structural Integrity: 78                                            53,820.00
Total Heat Sinks:    3,506 Double                                    2,963.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                  10,488.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              1,725.00
Fire Control Computers:                                              5,996.00
Food & Water:  (264 days supply)                                       513.00
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.00
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (1,124 total armor pts)         1,076.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                208
   Fore-Left/Right:                  187/187
   Aft-Left/Right:                   187/187
   Aft:                                 168

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Small Craft (6) with 6 doors                              1,200.00
           Cargo (1) with 1 door                                     1,200.00
   Bay 2:  Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                    3,600.00
   Bay 3:  Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                    3,600.00

DropShip Capacity:  6 Docking Hardpoints                             6,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4:  (120-meter diameter)                               400.00
Grav Decks #5 - 6:  (90-meter diameter)                                100.00
Life Boats:  2 (7 tons each)                                            14.00
Escape Pods:  38 (7 tons each)                                         266.00

Crew and Passengers:
     72 Officers (50 minimum)                                          720.00
    140 Crew (111 minimum)                                             980.00
     98 Gunners (80 minimum)                                           686.00
     48 Marines                                                        240.00
     30 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Heavy N-Gauss(60 rounds) Nose        60     60     60     60   36 14,030.00
2 Heavy N-Gauss(60 rounds) Nose        60     60     60     60   36 14,030.00
1 AR10 (13 KW, 30 B)       Nose         *      *      *      *   20  1,800.00
1 AR10 (13 KW, 30 B)       Nose         *      *      *      *   20  1,800.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Nose     2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Nose     2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Nose     2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Nose     2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Nose     2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
1 Laser AMS                Nose        --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Nose        --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Nose        --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Nose        --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Nose        --     --     --     --   12      1.50
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        FL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        FL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NL55                     FL/R        11     11     11     11  340  4,400.00
3 Medium NPPC              FL/R        27     27     27     27  810 10,800.00
2 Heavy NPPC               FL/R        30     30     30     30  900 12,000.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    L/RBS    2(24)  2(24)     --     --   16    104.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    L/RBS    2(24)  2(24)     --     --   16    104.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    L/RBS    2(24)  2(24)     --     --   16    104.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    L/RBS    2(24)  2(24)     --     --   16    104.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    L/RBS    2(24)  2(24)     --     --   16    104.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    4(36)  4(36)     --     --   80     56.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    4(36)  4(36)     --     --   80     56.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    4(36)  4(36)     --     --   80     56.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    4(36)  4(36)     --     --   80     56.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    4(36)  4(36)     --     --   80     56.00
1 Laser AMS                L/RBS       --     --     --     --   24      3.00
1 Laser AMS                L/RBS       --     --     --     --   24      3.00
1 Laser AMS                L/RBS       --     --     --     --   24      3.00
1 Laser AMS                L/RBS       --     --     --     --   24      3.00
1 Laser AMS                L/RBS       --     --     --     --   24      3.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        AL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        AL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NL55                     AL/R        11     11     11     11  340  4,400.00
3 Medium NPPC              AL/R        27     27     27     27  810 10,800.00
2 Heavy NPPC               AL/R        30     30     30     30  900 12,000.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Aft      2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Aft      2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Aft      2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Aft      2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 LB 10-X AC(80 rounds)    Aft      2(24)  2(24)     --     --    8     52.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
4 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      4(36)  4(36)     --     --   40     28.00
1 Laser AMS                Aft         --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Aft         --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Aft         --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Aft         --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Laser AMS                Aft         --     --     --     --   12      1.50
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.00%)                                            6,900.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 7,012     690,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        22,452,041,056 C-Bills
Battle Value:      221,268
Cost per BV:       101,469.9
Weapon Value:      102,963 (Ratio = .47)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 9,318;  MRV = 9,073;  LRV = 6,356;  ERV = 2,491
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 506,387
                   (64,145 Structure, 174,822 Life Support, 267,420 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 398,144  (79% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable



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PostPosted: 26-Jan-2006 01:16    Post subject: RE: Gemini Frigate Reply to topic Reply with quote

Heh. Forgot I posted this here, too. I made some improvements at the behest of the people at HeavyMetal.

This is the final version.




Class/Model/Name:  Gemini 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3060
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 3, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              690,000 tons
Hull:              Grelanda TitanForged
K-F Drive System:  KF Tiger IV
Length:            725 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,094 meters
Power Plant:       Rolls-Lefay Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Grelanda HephaestusCast Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:          
    4 Formian Heavy-Rail Heavy N-Gauss
    1 Formian Multi-Chamber AR10 Launcher
   10 Formian MagniShot Gauss Rifle
   16 Formian 500mm Auto NAC/30
    8 Silamor Star-Lazer Mk 4 NL55
   12 Silamor Super-N Particle Cannon Medium NPPC
  100 Formian 88mm Flak LB 10-X AC
  120 Silamor High-Beam II ER Large Laser
   16 Silamor CIAML Laser AMS
    8 Silamor Ultra-N Particle Cannon Heavy NPPC
Manufacturer:   Grelanda Aerospace
  Location:     Various
Communications System:  Apollo Pulse-Comm
Targeting & Tracking System:  Deep-Scan HiRez Mk-51
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Gemini 
Mass:              690,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      124,200.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 14)               312,225.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 4)                                 64.00
Structural Integrity: 78                                            53,820.00
Total Heat Sinks:    3,817 Double                                    3,274.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                   8,472.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              1,725.00
Fire Control Computers:                                             17,628.00
Food & Water:  (262 days supply)                                       524.00
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.00
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (1,123 total armor pts)         1,075.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                207
   Fore-Left/Right:                  187/187
   Aft-Left/Right:                   187/187
   Aft:                                 168

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  General Stores (1)                                          840.00
           Munitions Storage (2)                                     6,020.00
   Bay 2:  Small Craft (6) with 1 door                               1,200.00
           Small Craft Supply Bay (1)                                  750.00
   Bay 3:  Fighters (6) with 1 door                                    900.00
           Fighter Supply Bay (1)                                      600.00

DropShip Capacity:  4 Docking Hardpoints                             4,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2:  (120-meter diameter)                               200.00
Grav Decks #3 - 4:  (90-meter diameter)                                100.00
Grav Decks #5 - 6:  (120-meter diameter)                               200.00
Life Boats:  1 (7 tons each)                                             7.00
Escape Pods:  38 (7 tons each)                                         266.00

Crew and Passengers:
     72 Officers (50 minimum)                                          720.00
    140 Crew (111 minimum)                                             980.00
     98 Gunners (90 minimum)                                           686.00
     48 Marines                                                        240.00
     42 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Heavy N-Gauss(60 rounds) Nose        60     60     60     60   36 14,030.00
2 Heavy N-Gauss(60 rounds) Nose        60     60     60     60   36 14,030.00
1 AR10 (15 KW, 36 B)       Nose         *      *      *      *   20  2,080.00
10 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Nose   15(150)15(150)15(150)     --   10    170.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        FL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        FL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NL55                     FL/R        11     11     11     11  340  4,400.00
3 Medium NPPC              FL/R        27     27     27     27  810 10,800.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  FL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  FL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
12 ER Large Laser          FL/R    10(96) 10(96) 10(96)     --  288    120.00
12 ER Large Laser          FL/R    10(96) 10(96) 10(96)     --  288    120.00
2 Laser AMS                FL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
2 Laser AMS                FL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
2 Heavy NPPC               L/RBS       30     30     30     30  900 12,000.00
2 Heavy NPPC               L/RBS       30     30     30     30  900 12,000.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        AL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NAC/30(60 rounds)        AL/R        60     60     60     --  400 14,096.00
2 NL55                     AL/R        11     11     11     11  340  4,400.00
3 Medium NPPC              AL/R        27     27     27     27  810 10,800.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  AL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  AL/R     6(60)  6(60)     --     --   40    260.00
12 ER Large Laser          AL/R    10(96) 10(96) 10(96)     --  288    120.00
12 ER Large Laser          AL/R    10(96) 10(96) 10(96)     --  288    120.00
2 Laser AMS                AL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
2 Laser AMS                AL/R        --     --     --     --   48      6.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  Aft      6(60)  6(60)     --     --   20    130.00
10 LB 10-X AC(200 rounds)  Aft      6(60)  6(60)     --     --   20    130.00
12 ER Large Laser          Aft     10(96) 10(96) 10(96)     --  144     60.00
12 ER Large Laser          Aft     10(96) 10(96) 10(96)     --  144     60.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.90%)                                            6,216.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 7,634     690,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        8,479,334,440 C-Bills
Battle Value:      227,130
Cost per BV:       37,332.52
Weapon Value:      105,357 (Ratio = .46)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 9,671;  MRV = 9,265;  LRV = 6,635;  ERV = 2,479
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 519,292
                   (64,760 Structure, 175,422 Life Support, 279,110 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 708,750  (136% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable


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PostPosted: 26-Jan-2006 02:14    Post subject: RE: Gemini Frigate Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well I like all 3 versions, though Vagabond's and Warhammer's last one are both better than the original

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PostPosted: 31-Jan-2006 23:16    Post subject: RE: Gemini Frigate Reply to topic Reply with quote

I to like all of them. Very good ships. I really need to get the chance to play some BT when I get home on leave...

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