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Sleeping Dragon
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 Posted: 11-Jun-2007 14:00 Post subject: Carpet bombardment (design contest) |
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Lyran Alliance always liked making things big. Big 'Mechs, big tanks, big guns, big money. Once the Lyran engineers pondered about possible ways around ARES conventions, especially the parts banning orbital bombardment With growing fleets the fact that so many BIG guns are unused frustrated the admiralty and while the aerospace fighters were sufficient for tactical operations, sometimes it wasn't enough. When regiments are moving, the Lyran Alliance wants to be able to bomb closed formations to dust. The high command sent a specifications to various companies around Lyran Alliance to create a working prototype for testing.
Requirements:
- Aerospace fighter / Aerodyne small craft.
- Able to drop 30+ tons of bombs at once from internal bomb space (Cargo bay, 30 tons are bare minimum).
- At least moderate protection and defensive firepower (not specified by command).
- Cost will be considered, but it's secondary.
The LAAF command understands that runways for such aircraft is scarce and since the ship is meant to be used as offensive weapon the rearming and launch / landing will be executed on orbit.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2007 15:10 Post subject: |
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Timeframe? 2750 or less I think!??
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2007 15:37 Post subject: |
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It says Lyran Alliance, so 3060+
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Vagabond
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Mr. Referee
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2007 20:13 Post subject: |
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| Code: | AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Medium Range Strategic Bomber
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Aerodyne Small Craft
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 200 tons
Length: 31 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
4 ER Large Laser
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Class/Model/Name: Medium Range Strategic Bomber
Mass: 200 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 39.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity: 5 5.00
Total Heat Sinks: 24 Double 24.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 7.50
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 1.50
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (40 days supply) 1.00
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (414 total armor pts) 22.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 139
Left/Right Wings: 103/103
Aft: 69
Cargo:
Bay 1: Cargo (1) with 1 door 30.00
Escape Pods: 1 (7 tons each) 7.00
Crew and Passengers:
1 Officers (0 minimum) 10.00
2 Crew (2 minimum) 14.00
2 Gunners (1 minimum) 14.00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 ER Large Laser Nose 8 8 8 -- 24 10.00
2 ER Large Laser Aft 8 8 8 -- 24 10.00
1 Targeting Computer 5.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 48 200.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 13,192,140 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,443
Cost per BV: 9,142.16
Weapon Value: 3,030 (Ratio = 2.10)
Damage Factors: SRV = 31; MRV = 27; LRV = 12; ERV = 0
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,849
(537 Structure, 640 Life Support, 672 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 6,077 (329% of MPV)
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 10 / 0
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/2, Overheat: 0
Class: DS; Point Value: 14
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| Code: | AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Long Range Strategic Bomber
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Aerodyne Small Craft
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 200 tons
Length: 31 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
2 ER Large Laser
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Class/Model/Name: Long Range Strategic Bomber
Mass: 200 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 39.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity: 5 5.00
Total Heat Sinks: 12 Double 12.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 41.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 1.50
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (40 days supply) 1.00
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (414 total armor pts) 22.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 139
Left/Right Wings: 103/103
Aft: 69
Cargo:
Bay 1: Cargo (1) with 1 door 10.00
Cargo (1) with 1 door 10.00
Escape Pods: 1 (7 tons each) 7.00
Crew and Passengers:
1 Officers (0 minimum) 10.00
2 Crew (2 minimum) 14.00
2 Gunners (1 minimum) 14.00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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1 ER Large Laser Nose 8 8 8 -- 12 5.00
1 ER Large Laser Aft 8 8 8 -- 12 5.00
1 Targeting Computer 3.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.25%) .50
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TOTALS: Heat: 24 200.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,770,800 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,175
Cost per BV: 9,166.64
Weapon Value: 2,222 (Ratio = 1.89)
Damage Factors: SRV = 16; MRV = 13; LRV = 6; ERV = 0
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,513
(537 Structure, 640 Life Support, 336 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 6,077 (402% of MPV)
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 10 / 0
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: DS; Point Value: 12
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| Code: | AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Long Range Heavy Strategic Bomber
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Aerodyne DropShip
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 500 tons
Length: 40 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
8 ER Large Laser
4 Large Pulse Laser
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Class/Model/Name: Long Range Heavy Strategic Bomber
Mass: 500 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 97.50
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity: 10 25.00
Total Heat Sinks: 68 Double 64.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 61.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 4.00
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (50 days supply) 1.50
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (846 total armor pts) 45.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 214
Left/Right Wings: 211/211
Aft: 210
Cargo:
Bay 1: Cargo (1) with 1 door 24.00
Cargo (1) with 1 door 24.00
Cargo (1) with 1 door 24.00
Escape Pods: 1 (7 tons each) 7.00
Crew and Passengers:
1 Officers (1 minimum) 10.00
3 Crew (3 minimum) 21.00
2 Gunners (2 minimum) 14.00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 ER Large Laser Nose 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
2 ER Large Laser Nose 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
2 Large Pulse Laser L/RW(A) 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
2 ER Large Laser Aft 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
2 ER Large Laser Aft 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (2.00%) 10.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 136 500.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 195,445,296 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,127
Cost per BV: 62,502.49
Weapon Value: 5,767 (Ratio = 1.84)
Damage Factors: SRV = 95; MRV = 79; LRV = 18; ERV = 0
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 5,720
(2,585 Structure, 1,275 Life Support, 1,860 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 6,865 (120% of MPV)
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 14 / 14
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/3, Overheat: 0
Class: DS; Point Value: 31
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Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 12-Jun-2007 02:25 Post subject: |
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Yes WHM, 3060+, but I doubt that Lyran command would think about this before the Jihad threat was almost visible.
Nive entries V, but I would like to have one design per entrant (I should have said that, sorry) so please pick the one you want to enter the contest.
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 12-Jun-2007 05:04 Post subject: |
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the medium range bomber.
the others were tinkering ideas. note that the 3rd is a dropship and not a small craft.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 13-Jun-2007 10:23 Post subject: |
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My try!
Please look at the fluff!
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Halifax EST-XB1
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3070
Vessel Type: Aerospace Fighter
Rules: Level 2, Modified design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 95 tons
Frame: Bowie E2-B
Power Plant: GM 190 Fusion
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Armor Type: Donegal Omni-Sheath Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
4 RAMTech 800P Medium Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: Lockheed/CBM Corporation
Location: Donegal
Communications System: Rander 250
Targeting & Tracking System: Rander TA7-FB
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==Overview:==
While engaged in the FedCom civil war the Lyran Alliance felt the lack of
weapons able to destroy wide-stretched targets like vast military
installations. Due to the Ares Convention orbital bombardment is forbidden and
carpet bombing requires a lot of Fighters each carrying only a limited bomb
load.
After several years of collecting ideas and evaluating them, the LAAF called
for a space-capable bomber with an internal bomb load of 30 tons or more.
Lockheed/CBM answered promptly with a design based on its successful
Eisensturm Fighter.
The EST-XB1 Halifax, named after a WWII bomber, made its maidenflight in late
3067.
==Capabilities:==
The proven Bowie E2 frame was modified to carry a much lighter (despite being
a standard) GM 190 fusion engine as a heavy bomber doesn't need as much speed
as an aerospace fighter.
Nevertheless the testpilots call its flight characteristics that of a beached
whale! Two targeting computer enhanced twin pulse laser emplacements, one
mounted in the nose and the other one located in the rear, deliver accurate
defensive firepower but don't negate the need of proper fighter cover when
enemy fighters are around.
The armor was reduced, compared to the Eisensturm, but still the Halifax is
considerably protected.
18 tons of internal fuel give it a tremendous reach that can be further
stretched by additional fuelpods in its bomb bay or even by 5 tons in two
special external 2.5 ton pods or five standard fuel pods. More than 5 tons of
external load would make the bomber unflyable though.
But the heart of the Halifax is its massive 40 ton bomb bay! Equipped with a
multitude of multi-purpose hard points it can carry a vast variation of
payloads: different types of bombs, additional fuel pods, even cargo
containers or water tanks for extinguishing major fires! The LAAF also
approved tests for airborne deployment of Battle Armor!
Equipped with a PDSS (Payload Drop Selection System) the Halifax can drop even
a single defined bomb out of its 40 ton payload!
Actions like level bombing, maintaining the course and defensive fire are
highly automated as this bomber has a crew of only one!
==Variants:==
Some variants were proposed, mostly tinkering with the weapon loadout.
The -XB2 replaces the twin pulse lasers with quadruple ER lasers to boost the
range of the defensive weaponry. This weaponry will prevent the pilot to fire
his nose and rear lasers simultaneously.
Another variant, the -XB3, relies on only two twin ER laser emplacements
without the help of a targeting computer for self defense but also features
two AMS in each emplacement with a total of four tons of ammunition.
The -XTB1 is an airtanker with a 50 ton refueling tank and a smaller 8 ton
tank for its own consumption though both tanks are connected. It doesn`t have
a targeting computer and drops one rear-firing pulse laser for two refueling
arms in its wings each able to deliver 6 tons of fuel per minute. This tanker
is able to refuel two Fighters simultaneously both in an atmosphere and in
space.
==Deployment==
The prototype is in its trials on and above Donegal and Lockheed/CBM awaits
the permission to mass produce the craft.
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Class/Model/Name: Halifax EST-XB1
Mass: 95 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant: 190 Fusion 7,50
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Structural Integrity: 9 ,00
Total Heat Sinks: 10 Double ,00
Fuel: 18,00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters: 3,00
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (296 total armor pts) 16,50
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Nose: 90
Left/Right Wings: 70/70
Aft: 66
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 6 -- -- -- 8 4,00
2 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 6 -- -- -- 8 4,00
1 Targeting Computer 2,00
1 Bomb Bay 40,00
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TOTALS: Heat: 16 95,00
Tons Left: ,00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 4.095.903 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1.113
Cost per BV: 3.680,06
Weapon Value: 1.781 (Ratio = 1,60)
Damage Factors: SRV = 24; MRV = 0; LRV = 0; ERV = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 7 / 0
Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-, Overheat: 0
Class: FH; Point Value: 11
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2007 23:57 Post subject: |
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I couldn't think of a name.
On the other hand, it's namelessness lead to fluff. It's great how things sometimes work out like that.
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Light Strategic Bomber
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Aerospace Fighter
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 100 tons
Length: 22 meters
Power Plant: 300 Fusion
Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
1 ER Large Laser
5 Medium Laser
2 ER Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Lockheed/CBM Corporation
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==Overview:==
The LAAF high command has recently issued specifications for a new aerospace
craft, able to destroy strategic planetary targets such as bases and storage
sites from the air, a method far more efficient than dropping troops on such
targets.
This design from Lockheed/CBM, currently designated simply as "Light Strategic
Bomber" is an initial response. The construction of a prototype is nearly
complete on Donegal, where the initial testing will be performed.
==Capabilities:==
The Light Strategic Bomber carries a 45 ton bomb load in an internal bay. It
can also carry an additional 20 tons of bombs on external wing racks, although these have a significant negative impact on speed and manuverability. The bomb load can be easily tailored for specific targets. Even without external ordnance, the aircraft has a significant bomb load, allowing it to deliver maximum destruction to targets with the minimum number of pilots and machines.
The bomber prototype carries 16.5 tons of ferro-aluminum armor, giving it
significant protection from enemy fighters and ground fire. The fighter's
armor thickness in any location is more than double what a BattleMech would
expect with a similar weight of ferro-fibrous armor.
For defense, the bomber is intended to carry one extended-range large laser in the nose, and two ER medium lasers in the tail. For closer threats, the bomber will carry five standard medium lasers in the wings and nose; standard lasers were chosen for their low heat output, which in turn allows tonnage to be dedicated to bombs instead of heat sinks.
The 300 rate standard fusion engine is heavier than what one might find in
recent fighters like the Eisensturm, but far less expensive and somewhat
easier to maintain. Despite its weight, the engine provides the bomber with
maneuverability comparable to standard aerofighters of this tonnage.
==Variants:==
The 'Light" reference in the designation is a legacy of the original design
concept, which envisioned a 200 ton small craft. The small craft notion,
however, was scrapped. The vehicle's engine was so heavy that even at a
significantly lower speed, it could not carry a sufficient weapons load.
When more prototpyes (or production bombers) are available, there has been a proposal to investigate loading the bomb bay with the experimental
Thunderbolt/20 missiles. The bomber could theoretically carry 135 of them,
deploying them in small salvoes or en masse against BattleMech and armored vehicle formations, as well as DropShips. However, considering the fact that the Thunderbolt missiles themselves remain to be perfected, it is unlikely that this will ever come to pass.
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Class/Model/Name: Light Strategic Bomber
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant: 300 Fusion 19.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Structural Integrity: 10 .00
Total Heat Sinks: 10 Double .00
Fuel: 4.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters: 3.00
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (296 total armor pts) 16.50
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Nose: 100
Left/Right Wings: 73/73
Aft: 50
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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1 ER Large Laser Nose 8 8 8 -- 12 5.00
1 Medium Laser Nose 5 -- -- -- 3 1.00
2 Medium Laser RW 5 -- -- -- 6 2.00
2 Medium Laser LW 5 -- -- -- 6 2.00
2 ER Medium Laser Aft 5 5 -- -- 10 2.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment Body .50
1 Bomb Bay 45.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 37 100.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 5,965,200 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,314
Cost per BV: 4,539.73
Weapon Value: 2,260 (Ratio = 1.72)
Damage Factors: SRV = 21; MRV = 7; LRV = 1; ERV = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 7 / 0
Damage PB/M/L: 3/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: FH; Point Value: 13
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 03-Jul-2007 03:26 Post subject: |
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Good, another entry!
I'll make a poll to decide which one is the best liked.
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