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Vagabond
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 Posted: 16-Mar-2013 23:56 Post subject: Clan Hell Horse Vhicle - Deathsteed |
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Deathsteed
Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Motive Type: Tracked OmniVehicle
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 0
Cost: 3,816,094 C-Bills
Battle Value: 439
Power Plant: 300 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor: Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
1 Micro Pulse Laser
1 Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons)
20.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer:
Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:
Additional:
The 7.5 tons of cargo compartment is actually an Armored Motive System which
the program does not allow as an option at the moment.
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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Standard 40 points 7.50
Engine: Fuel-Cell Engine 300 23.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 1 0.00
Control Equipment: 4.00
Lift Equipment: 0.00
Turret: 2.00
Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 104 7.50
Armor
Factor
Front 24
Left/Right 20/20
Turret 24
Rear 16
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 4
4 1 0 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, EE
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Loadout Name: Base Cost: 3,816,094
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 439
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 4
4 1 0 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, EE
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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 7,481,094
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 1,143
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Gauss Rifle T 1 1 12.00
iATM-3 T 2 1 1.50
2 (F) Vehicular Grenade Launchers T - 2 1.00
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Cargo, Standard (0.5 tons) BD 0 1 0.50
@Gauss Rifle (16) BD - 0 2.00
@iATM-3 (ER) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 11
4 3 3 2 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, EE
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Loadout Name: A Cost: 7,017,656
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 934
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 11 10.00
Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Large Pulse Laser T 10 1 6.00
iATM-3 T 2 1 1.50
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Cargo, Standard (0.5 tons) BD 0 1 0.50
@iATM-3 (20) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 9
4 3 2 2 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, EE
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Loadout Name: B Cost: 7,465,469
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 1,016
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
2 Large Chem Lasers T 12 2 10.00
2 iATM-3s T 4 2 3.00
Light TAG T 0 1 0.50
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Cargo, Standard (0.5 tons) BD 0 1 0.50
@Large Chem Laser (30) BD - 0 3.00
@iATM-3 (ER) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (20) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 10
4 1 1 1 0 3 2 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, LTAG, EE
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Loadout Name: C Cost: 8,747,219
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 1,409
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
8 iATM-3s T 16 8 12.00
AP Gauss Rifle T 1 1 0.50
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Cargo, Standard (0.5 tons) BD 0 1 0.50
@iATM-3 (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (ER) (40) BD - 0 2.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (40) BD - 0 2.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 14
4 1 1 1 0 3 4 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, EE
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Loadout Name: D Cost: 7,500,469
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 979
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Arrow IV Missile T 10 1 12.00
2 Medium Chem Lasers T 4 2 2.00
Light TAG T 0 1 0.50
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Cargo, Standard (0.5 tons) BD 0 1 0.50
@Medium Chem Laser (30) BD - 0 1.00
@Arrow IV (Cluster) (15) BD - 0 3.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 10
4 1 1 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, ARTAC, LTAG, EE
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Loadout Name: E Cost: 8,118,594
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 1,229
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
4 iATM-3s T 8 4 6.00
6 Medium Chem Lasers T 12 6 6.00
Light TAG T 0 1 0.50
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Cargo, Standard (0.5 tons) BD 0 1 0.50
@iATM-3 (ER) (40) BD - 0 2.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@Medium Chem Laser (90) BD - 0 3.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 12
4 1 1 1 0 3 4 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, LTAG, EE
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Loadout Name: F Cost: 6,688,031
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 748
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
8 AP Gauss Rifles T 8 8 4.00
2 Mech Mortar 1s T 2 2 2.00
Cargo, Standard (7.0 tons) BD 0 1 7.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Infantry Bay (5.0 tons) BD 0 1 5.00
Cargo, Standard (0.5 tons) BD 0 1 0.50
@AP Gauss Rifle (160) BD - 0 4.00
@Mortar 1 (Airburst) (24) BD - 0 1.00
@Mortar 1 (Anti-Personnel) (24) BD - 0 1.00
@Mortar 1 (Smoke) (24) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 7
4 1 1 1 0 3 2 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, EE
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one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
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Vagabond
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Mr. Referee
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Posts: 5788
Location: United States
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| Posted: 17-Mar-2013 00:36 Post subject: Clan Hell Horse Vhicle - Deathsteed |
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An update to a project I undertook a year ago. The Deathsteed is an attempt to create a vehicle that can go 1 on 1 with a Battlemech. The key pieces of tech are the Armored Motive System, the Ferro-Lamellor armor, and the Fuel Cell Engine.
the Armored Motive System greatly reduces the severity and frequency in which the vehicle suffers immobilizing damage by offering a -2 mod on all rolls on the Motive Systems Damage table thus requiring a 10+ to affect movement. Test models in Megamek rarely saw a vehicle with this equipment becoming immobilized before its death.
the Ferro-Lamellor armor neutralizes the danger of LB-X guns, TACs, and greatly improves the durability by reducing the overall damage taken from all weapon strikes. Even at just 24 points of forward armor, the Deathsteed was able to last significantly longer then other vehicles of its class.
the Fuel Cell Engine is lighter per rating then a comparable Fusion Engine on a vehicle do to the engine shielding increase. Only a LFE, XL, or XXL is lighter; however, all of these options increase the base cost by 4 or 5 times that of a fuel cell. While I could improve the performance even more by using a Clan XL part of my concept was an inexpensive armored tank. The fuel cell unlike an ICE still counts as an energy producing engine and requires no energy converters for Gauss and energy weapons (non-chemical), but it only provides a single free heat sink. I was able to maintain a decent vehicle speed with this engine.
The MiPL is fixed as both an unlimited fire weapon and as the key anti-infantry defense.
Another piece of standard equipment on the Deathsteed is the NOVA CEWS which acts as an ECM (limited), LBAP, and a C3i (limited). I didn't lock it in as base equipment to allow for changes. A star of these can link together 3 at a time but can do this semi-dynamically, so it can pack even though its designed to go 1v1.
iATM was used extensively in this iteration rather then a StSRM4 and LRM10 do to its flexibility in ranges, but also because iATM acts like a streak launcher no matter the munition used (ST, HE, ER). It means that those iATM3s can do full damage at each range: 3 at 16 to 27 hexes (ER), 6 at 10 to 15 hexes, and 9 at 1 to 9 hexes.
The rest of the weapons are fairly standard choices. Gauss for punch, LPL for range and efficiency, Chemical Lasers to prevent the need for heat sinks, and LTag as a space user with potential function.
Side note: the missile boat variant initially had 2 iATM/12s w/ 5t ammo but i had failed to up the cargo tonnage for the extra 5 tons i had added to the design. I broke down and went cheesy by using 8 iATM/3s instead.
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Vagabond
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Mr. Referee
Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
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Location: United States
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| Posted: 17-Mar-2013 00:59 Post subject: Clan Hell Horse Vhicle - Deathsteed |
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For comparison.
Deathsteed XL
Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Motive Type: Tracked OmniVehicle
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X
Production Year: 0
Cost: 15,853,906 C-Bills
Battle Value: 664
Power Plant: 300 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor: Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
1 Micro Pulse Laser
1 Laser Anti-Missile System
1 Unknown CASE
1 Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons)
23.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer:
Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:
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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Standard 40 points 7.50
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 300 14.50
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 10 0.00
Control Equipment: 4.00
Lift Equipment: 0.00
Turret: 2.00
Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 161 11.50
Armor
Factor
Front 40
Left/Right 30/30
Turret 36
Rear 25
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 7
4 1 0 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, ENE
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Loadout Name: Base Cost: 15,853,906
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 664
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 7
4 1 0 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, ENE
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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 19,759,531
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 1,520
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
Gauss Rifle T 1 1 12.00
2 iATM-3s T 4 2 3.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Targeting Computer BD - 1 3.00
@Gauss Rifle (16) BD - 0 2.00
@iATM-3 (ER) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 15
4 4 3 3 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE
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Loadout Name: A Cost: 20,828,469
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 1,818
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 11 1.00
Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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AP Gauss Rifle FR 1 1 0.50
Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
iATM-12 T 8 1 7.00
AP Gauss Rifle T 1 1 0.50
Large Pulse Laser T 10 1 6.00
TAG T 0 1 1.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Targeting Computer BD - 1 2.00
@iATM-12 (5) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-12 (ER) (5) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-12 (HE) (5) BD - 0 1.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 18
4 4 3 2 0 3 2 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, TAG, CASE
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Loadout Name: B Cost: 19,656,406
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 1,451
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
2 Large Chem Lasers T 12 2 10.00
2 iATM-3s T 4 2 3.00
ER Medium Laser T 5 1 1.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Targeting Computer BD - 1 3.00
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
@Large Chem Laser (30) BD - 0 3.00
@iATM-3 (ER) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 15
4 3 3 1 0 3 1 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE
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Loadout Name: C Cost: 22,269,406
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 2,067
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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AP Gauss Rifle FR 1 1 0.50
Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
2 iATM-12s T 16 2 14.00
AP Gauss Rifle T 1 1 0.50
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
@iATM-12 (10) BD - 0 2.00
@iATM-12 (ER) (10) BD - 0 2.00
@iATM-12 (HE) (10) BD - 0 2.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 21
4 6 4 2 0 3 2 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE
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Loadout Name: D Cost: 19,660,156
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 1,263
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Small Pulse Laser FR 2 1 1.00
Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
Arrow IV Missile T 10 1 12.00
2 Medium Chem Lasers T 4 2 2.00
Small Pulse Laser T 2 1 1.00
TAG T 0 1 1.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
@Arrow IV (Cluster) (15) BD - 0 3.00
@Medium Chem Laser (60) BD - 0 2.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 13
4 3 2 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, ARTAC, TAG, CASE
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Loadout Name: E Cost: 20,185,656
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 1,558
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Small Pulse Laser FR 2 1 1.00
Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
4 iATM-3s T 8 4 6.00
6 Medium Chem Lasers T 12 6 6.00
Small Pulse Laser T 2 1 1.00
2 AP Gauss Rifles T 2 2 1.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
@iATM-3 (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (ER) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@Medium Chem Laser (90) BD - 0 3.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 16
4 4 3 1 0 3 4 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE
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Loadout Name: F Cost: 18,870,219
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 986
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
8 AP Gauss Rifles T 8 8 4.00
2 Mech Mortar 2s T 4 2 5.00
TAG T 0 1 1.00
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Infantry Bay (5.0 tons) BD 0 1 5.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (160) BD - 0 4.00
@Mortar 2 (Airburst) (12) BD - 0 1.00
@Mortar 2 (Anti-Personnel) (12) BD - 0 1.00
@Mortar 2 (Smoke) (12) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 10
4 3 3 1 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, TAG, CASE
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Loadout Name: G Cost: 20,180,156
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X BV2: 1,676
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 16 6.00
Equipment Location Heat Spaces Mass
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Micro Pulse Laser T 1 1 0.50
Laser Anti-Missile System T 5 1 1.00
ER PPC T 15 1 6.00
3 iATM-3s T 6 3 4.50
Light TAG T 0 1 0.50
CASE BD - 0 0.00
Cargo, Standard (7.5 tons) BD 0 1 7.50
Nova CEWS BD 2 1 1.50
Targeting Computer BD - 1 2.00
@iATM-3 (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (ER) (20) BD - 0 1.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) BD - 0 1.00
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 17
4 5 4 3 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, LTAG, CASE
_________________
one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
//^(^_^)^\\
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Vagabond
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Mr. Referee
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| Posted: 17-Mar-2013 01:02 Post subject: Clan Hell Horse Vhicle - Deathsteed |
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I believe that the XL versions of the LPL and ERPPC as in error do to not tracking the LAMS heats.
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