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PostPosted: 02-Oct-2014 13:58    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Help! Not just anybody. Help ya know I need someone to help meeee.

I have lost my copy of Heavymetal Aero, and because of that and the fact that it was on my old computer which is dead now, I cant just do this my self. So I thought I would come over to my friends here at Mordels and ask for a favor. I need someone to get me stats on a couple of custom units.

1. a Colossus. the changes are going to be minor, but I need to see what happens when the bays are changed around. There are a few things I need in it.
A. room for 16 mechs with a repair bay that can accommodate up to 100Ton mechs.
B. the same for vehicles but up to 36. with a repair bay up to 100Tons
C. infantry bay can stay the same.
D. an added Fighter bay for up to 4 fighters with a repair bay up to 50 ton.

The second unit I need is a modified Centurion aerospace fighter. Its old and 30 tons, mounts 3 ML and moves at 10/15. I would like to get it better firepower at roughly the same speed if possible. but a couple of LG lasers would be ideal. If you need to you can play with the speed a bit but nothing under 8/12.

These are both going to be used in my book. the back story is they have been in the Boneyard. located in the Mojave Dessert in mothball now for 30+ years. they are going to be refitted, which should be done at a fraction of the cost of buying new equipment.
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PostPosted: 06-Oct-2014 10:23    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

I don't use Aero so can't help you here. As an alternative, have you looked into some of the free alternatives to HMA?
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PostPosted: 07-Oct-2014 01:26    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Not yet, will have to give it a try. Thank you.
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PostPosted: 07-Oct-2014 03:03    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

i'll install HMA tomorrow and cook up your mod.
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PostPosted: 07-Oct-2014 22:58    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cool thank you.
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PostPosted: 08-Oct-2014 15:30    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ok, so if i am understanding the request: you want a modified Colossus that can carry 16 mechs, 36 vehicles, 12 infantry platoons, and 4 fighters?

repair capacity is an innate ability of a units bay, so a mech bay can service any size battlemech up to 100t for maintenance, repairs, and certain customizations.

Reason I ask is that a Colossus can already carry 72 vehicles up to 100t, 36 battlemechs, and 12 infantry platoons. Were you asking for someone to remove 36 vehicles bays, 20 mech bays, and add 4 aero bays plus extra cargo capacity?
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PostPosted: 08-Oct-2014 15:56    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 1) CNT-1D
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 2, Modified design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              30 tons
Power Plant:       240 XL Fusion
Safe Thrust:       10
Maximum Thrust:    15
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
    2 Large Laser
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 1) CNT-1D
Mass:              30 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  240 XL Fusion                                              6.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 10
      Maximum Thrust: 15
Structural Integrity: 10                                                  .00
Total Heat Sinks:    10 Double                                            .00
Fuel:                                                                    4.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (120 total armor pts)                       7.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 40
   Left/Right Wings:                  26/26
   Aft:                                  28

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Large Laser              RW           8      8     --     --    8      5.00
1 Large Laser              LW           8      8     --     --    8      5.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 16     30.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,629,515 C-Bills
Battle Value:      950
Cost per BV:       3,820.54
Weapon Value:      925 (Ratio = .97)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 15;  MRV = 12;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FL;  Point Value: 10

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 2) CNT-1D
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 2, Modified design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              30 tons
Power Plant:       240 Light Fusion
Safe Thrust:       10
Maximum Thrust:    15
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
    3 Medium Pulse Laser
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 2) CNT-1D
Mass:              30 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  240 Light Fusion                                           9.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 10
      Maximum Thrust: 15
Structural Integrity: 10                                                  .00
Total Heat Sinks:    10 Double                                            .00
Fuel:                                                                    5.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (120 total armor pts)                       7.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 40
   Left/Right Wings:                  26/26
   Aft:                                  28

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose         6     --     --     --    4      2.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser       RW           6     --     --     --    4      2.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser       LW           6     --     --     --    4      2.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 12     30.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,054,745 C-Bills
Battle Value:      712
Cost per BV:       4,290.37
Weapon Value:      838 (Ratio = 1.18)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 18;  MRV = 0;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FL;  Point Value: 7

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                               * CUSTOM WEAPON

Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 3) CNT-1D
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 3, Modified design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              30 tons
Power Plant:       240 XL Fusion
Safe Thrust:       10
Maximum Thrust:    15
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
    1 Medium Pulse Laser
    1 Small Pulse Laser
    2 Light PPC*
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 3) CNT-1D
Mass:              30 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  240 XL Fusion                                              6.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 10
      Maximum Thrust: 15
Structural Integrity: 10                                                  .00
Total Heat Sinks:    10 Double                                            .00
Fuel:                                                                    5.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (120 total armor pts)                       7.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 40
   Left/Right Wings:                  26/26
   Aft:                                  28

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose         6     --     --     --    4      2.00
1 Small Pulse Laser        Nose         3     --     --     --    2      1.00
1 Light PPC*               RW           5      5     --     --    5      3.00
1 Light PPC*               LW           5      5     --     --    5      3.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 16     30.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,832,145 C-Bills
Battle Value:      924
Cost per BV:       4,147.34
Weapon Value:      1,006 (Ratio = 1.09)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 18;  MRV = 7;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FL;  Point Value: 9

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                               * CUSTOM WEAPON

Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 4) CNT-1D
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 2, Modified design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              30 tons
Power Plant:       240 XL Fusion
Safe Thrust:       10
Maximum Thrust:    15
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
    1 ER Medium Laser
    2 MML 5*
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod 4) CNT-1D
Mass:              30 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  240 XL Fusion                                              6.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 10
      Maximum Thrust: 15
Structural Integrity: 10                                                  .00
Total Heat Sinks:    10 Double                                            .00
Fuel:                                                                    5.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (120 total armor pts)                       7.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 40
   Left/Right Wings:                  26/26
   Aft:                                  28

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Medium Laser          Nose         5      5     --     --    5      1.00
1 MML 5*                   RW           3[6]   3      3     --    3      3.00
1 MML 5*                   LW           3[6]   3      3     --    3      3.00
  Ammo (MML 5) 48          ---                                           2.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 11     30.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,802,245 C-Bills
Battle Value:      710
Cost per BV:       5,355.27
Weapon Value:      879 (Ratio = 1.24)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 10;  MRV = 8;  LRV = 2;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FL;  Point Value: 7


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PostPosted: 09-Oct-2014 00:25    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

wrote:
repair capacity is an innate ability of a units bay, so a mech bay can service any size battlemech up to 100t for maintenance, repairs, and certain customizations. 

Reason I ask is that a Colossus can already carry 72 vehicles up to 100t, 36 battlemechs, and 12 infantry platoons. Were you asking for someone to remove 36 vehicles bays, 20 mech bays, and add 4 aero bays plus extra cargo capacity?


Ahh, see I didnt know that. I need to update my book's /sigh. which book is that out of? but yeah it needs a fighter bay. and if that comes at the expense of a couple of mech bays, than that is ok.

And the fighter is awesome. I would love to see one with 6 med pulse 4 nose mounted and 2 in the wings.

Thank you Vagabond. [/code]
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PostPosted: 09-Oct-2014 00:58    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

I decided upon 5 so that I didn't need to modify its speed profile in order to add heat sinks.

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod) CNT-1D
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3025
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 2, Modified design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              30 tons
Power Plant:       240 XL Fusion
Safe Thrust:       10
Maximum Thrust:    15
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
    5 Medium Pulse Laser
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Centurion (Stinger Mod) CNT-1D
Mass:              30 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  240 XL Fusion                                              6.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 10
      Maximum Thrust: 15
Structural Integrity: 10                                                  .00
Total Heat Sinks:    10 Double                                            .00
Fuel:                                                                    4.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (120 total armor pts)                       7.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 40
   Left/Right Wings:                  26/26
   Aft:                                  28

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose         6     --     --     --    4      2.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       RW           6     --     --     --    8      4.00
2 Medium Pulse Laser       LW           6     --     --     --    8      4.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 20     30.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,744,515 C-Bills
Battle Value:      932
Cost per BV:       4,017.72
Weapon Value:      1,006 (Ratio = 1.08)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 30;  MRV = 0;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FL;  Point Value: 9


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PostPosted: 09-Oct-2014 01:06    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name:  Colossus (Stinger Mod) 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       Spheroid DropShip
Rules:             Level 2, Modified design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              20,000 tons
Length:            125 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:          
    2 Gauss Rifle
    7 ER Large Laser
   24 Medium Laser
    2 Arrow IV System
    6 ER PPC
    8 LRM 20+ArtIV
Manufacturer:   Millenium Industries Interstellar
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==Overview:==
    In 2651, the SLDF was embarrassed during "war games" held in the Periphery
after sending five regiments to participate.  Because of the deplorable
results caused by lack of coordination and cooperation, the SLDF High Command
created their famous Regimental Combat Teams (RCT).  This specialized combat
team would need transportation that would enhance the unit's qualities.
    Enter Mitchell Vehicles Interstellar.  They delivered a design to the SLDF
that would fulfill the needs of the RCT, supporting it during its operation. 
It was a bold design massing 20,000 tons; the largest Assault DropShip ever
built.  The Colossus was designed to be easily repaired and its components
were remarkably robust, added to its reliability.  The ship was equipped with
the Star League's most advanced armor and weapons technologies, driving the
vessel costs to over 700 million a ship.  While they performed their intended
function admirably, the cost of replacing them was too prohibitive.  After the
ships were destroyed during the Amaris War--including the company tat made
them, Mitchell Vehicles Interstellar--the Colossus was replaced by the smaller
yet just as capable Excalibur, at half the cost.  After the war, only five
Colossus ships were known to have survived; those disappeared with Kerensky's
army.
    In 3014, however, Snord's Irregulars stumbled across a buried Colossus on
the Lyran world of Phecda.  The ship's structural integrity was still sound, a
testament to its design.  In its holds, Snord found a large stockpile of
'Mechs.  The ship was later cannibalized by Lyran forces.  Then, in the summer
of 3067, another Colossus was discovered on the planet Epsilon Eridani.  While
Renfield's Renegades and the Lone Star Regiment were battling, they unearthed
a Star League Depot hidden in the Shamus Mountains.  Both laid claims to the
pristine DropShip, exacerbation the situation at hand.  Both suffered greatly
in the conflict, driven by greed as much as their assignments.  The Lone Star
Regiment emerged the victor and laid claim to the ship, making up for much of
its losses. 

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Class/Model/Name:  Colossus (Stinger Mod) 
Mass:              20,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                        3,900.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity: 20                                               800.00
Total Heat Sinks:    162 Double                                           .00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                     383.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:                150.00
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .00
Food & Water:  (1 days supply)                                           5.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (884 total armor pts)                      60.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                252
   Left/Right Sides:                 221/221
   Aft:                                 190

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Heavy Vehicles (51-100T) (36) with 2 doors                3,600.00
           Cargo (1)                                                 3,600.00
   Bay 2:  BattleMechs (16) with 3 doors                             2,400.00
           Cargo (1)                                                 1,200.00
   Bay 3:  Fighters (4) with 1 door                                    600.00
           Cargo (1)                                                 1,200.00
   Bay 4:  Infantry (foot) Platoons (12) with 4 doors                   60.00
   Bay 5:  Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                      726.00
           Cargo (1)                                                    93.00

Life Boats:  4 (7 tons each)                                            28.00
Escape Pods:  25 (7 tons each)                                         175.00

Crew and Passengers:
      9 Officers (9 minimum)                                            90.00
     37 Crew (0 minimum)                                               259.00
      9 Gunners (9 minimum)                                             63.00
    664 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Gauss Rifle(96 rounds)   Nose     3(30)  3(30)  3(30)     --    2     42.00
1 ER Large Laser           Nose     3(28)   1(8)   1(8)     --   12      5.00
  4 Medium Laser                                                 12      4.00
2 Arrow IV System(30 roundsNose     4(40)  4(40)  4(40)  4(40)   20     36.00
2 ER PPC                   Nose     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   30     14.00
1 ER PPC                   FL/R     1(10)  1(10)  1(10)     --   30     14.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(24 rounds)  FL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   24     52.00
1 ER Large Laser           FL/R     3(28)   1(8)   1(8)     --   24     10.00
  4 Medium Laser                                                 24      8.00
1 ER Large Laser           AL/R     3(28)   1(8)   1(8)     --   24     10.00
  4 Medium Laser                                                 24      8.00
1 ER PPC                   AL/R     1(10)  1(10)  1(10)     --   30     14.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(24 rounds)  AL/R     3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   24     52.00
2 ER Large Laser           Aft      4(36)  2(16)  2(16)     --   24     10.00
  4 Medium Laser                                                 12      4.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.63%)                                              325.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              Heat: 316      20,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        665,182,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      7,672
Cost per BV:       86,702.55
Weapon Value:      8,880 (Ratio = 1.16)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 385;  MRV = 221;  LRV = 87;  ERV = 2
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 149,506
                   (88,228 Structure, 55,450 Life Support, 5,828 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 62,573  (42% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      MP: 3,  Armor/Structure: 15 / 14
                   Damage PB/M/L: 14/10/10,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: DL;  Point Value: 77
                   Specials: sph, if


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PostPosted: 09-Oct-2014 10:58    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Vagabond I really can't thank you enough. They are perfect. Thank you. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10-Oct-2014 00:52    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

If you couldn't tell, i pulled the extra bays and converted them into extra cargo as if the bay itself has just had all of its braces, gantries, cranes, ect. removed and boxes piled in the alcove. The exception of course being the aero bays.

The only other upgrade was the SHS to DHS and extra cargo.
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PostPosted: 10-Oct-2014 11:31    Post subject: Help! I need sombody.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Thank you again, it is marvelous. And it came at a time when I was getting a bit stuck in the story as well. It helped me get over my creative mountain.
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