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Kraken Federated Suns Marshal
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Posted: 02-Jan-2016 23:48 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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Tonight was the preview for the final season of "Mythbusters".
During the preview, it was announced that the upcoming episodes for this season will include a test to determine if hovercraft can, indeed, skim over minefields without setting them off.
I could swear I asked this question here on this board some years ago, and so now it looks like it'll finally be answered. _________________ "I wish I could write as mysterious as a cat." -Edgar Allen Poe"I knew there was something special about you, but I never realized you were really a cat." Wolfwood to a random cat (Trigun)
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Mordel Mordel.Net Administrator
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Posted: 05-Jan-2016 09:18 Post subject: Re: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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Kraken wrote: | Tonight was the preview for the final season of "Mythbusters".
During the preview, it was announced that the upcoming episodes for this season will include a test to determine if hovercraft can, indeed, skim over minefields without setting them off.
I could swear I asked this question here on this board some years ago, and so now it looks like it'll finally be answered. |
My guess is that the hovercraft will set off the minefields. _________________ Mordel Blacknight - Site Administrator
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 05-Jan-2016 14:46 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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I don't think that it will set off mines against vehicles, but the skirt could detonate some infantry mines. _________________ The dragon NEVER sleeps!
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
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Posted: 05-Jan-2016 16:26 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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i think it will depend on the square pressure needed to trigger the fuse. As SD said, vehicle mines might not have enough pressure while infantry mines will. _________________ one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 06-Jan-2016 01:52 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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Either presure, or wire triggers. Those would work always. _________________ The dragon NEVER sleeps!
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Kraken Federated Suns Marshal
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Posted: 09-Jan-2016 22:34 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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The test was this evening.
Spoilers:
The team procured a light-weight hovercraft. Rated max functional weight of vehicle and occupants combined was 630 pounds. However, only one person operated the vehicle during each test.
The team rigged up a series of faux landmines set to detonate when a specific amount of weight was placed upon them.
Even when the weight threshold was set to a mere 5 pounds, the hovercraft still skated over the minefield with no issues whatsoever. A check of the mathematics revealed that the hovercraft exerted less than a pound per square inch of pressure, and so would have no issues whatsoever.
In that sense, a light enough hovercraft *could*, indeed, go over a certain type of minefield without issue. _________________ "I wish I could write as mysterious as a cat." -Edgar Allen Poe"I knew there was something special about you, but I never realized you were really a cat." Wolfwood to a random cat (Trigun)
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 10-Jan-2016 04:12 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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Actually since the hovercraft rests on a air cushion the probability of triggering mines by preasure is pretty small. I'd wager my luck on tripping them with the skirt or flying debris accidentally hitting them. _________________ The dragon NEVER sleeps!
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Mordel Mordel.Net Administrator
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Posted: 10-Jan-2016 09:09 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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Interesting. I drastically over-estimated the amount of downward pressure a hovercraft exerted! _________________ Mordel Blacknight - Site Administrator
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
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Posted: 10-Jan-2016 16:53 Post subject: Re: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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Mordel wrote: | Interesting. I drastically over-estimated the amount of downward pressure a hovercraft exerted! |
To be fair, they did use a pretty small hovercraft. I'd like to see how the Marine lander does. Though the pressure inside the skirt of those is low enough for human beings to operate within it while inflated. _________________ one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 11-Jan-2016 00:07 Post subject: Re: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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I think that the real problem with mine is that the presure is via airflow, so it just goes around any protruding pbjects and doesn't really push on anything that much as long as it's allowed easier way to escape. _________________ The dragon NEVER sleeps!
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chihawk Clan Blood Spirit Master Bartender
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Posted: 14-Jan-2016 21:52 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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Let's just say I'm not convinced... _________________ www.210sportsblog.com
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 16-Jan-2016 08:17 Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields |
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The ground pressure should be the weight of the vehicle (that is lifted by the air cushion ) divided by the area of the air cushion.
The LCAC with 200 tons of weight and an air cushion of around 26m * 14m would have a ground pressure of 550 kg/m2 that is 0,8 pound per square inch. That should trigger everything set on this or lower value.
An 8ton PACV would have 95 kg/m2 or 0,14 psi. _________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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