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Black_Phoenix
Clan Nova Cat
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 Posted: 26-Jun-2002 14:24 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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Hellraise
Tech: Clan
Tonnage: 70
Type: Biped
Internals: Endo-s
Engine: Fusion XL
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Heat Sinks: 10[20]
Armor: Standard (216 pts)
H: 9
CT: 33/10
R/LT: 21/9
R/LA: 22
R/LL: 30
Locked Crits
2 Endo-S LL
2 Endo-S RL
1 Endo-S RT
1 Endo-S LT
1 Endo-S H
Config-Prime
Streak SRM 6- RA
Streak SRM 6- LA
Ammo (Streak) 15- LT
Large Pulse Laser- CT
ER Large Laser- RT
ER Large Laser- RT(R)
3 Small Pulse Lasers- LT
TAG- LT
Active Probe- LT
ECM Suite- RT
Double Heat Sink- LA
Double Heat Sink- RA
2 Double Heat Sinks- RT
Config- A
Hatchet- RA (5 crits)
Large Heavy Laser- LA
Medium Pulse Laser- CT
ATM 12- RT
ATM 12- LT
Ammo (ATM) 10- LT (2 crits)
Ammo (ATM) 10- RT
Double Heat Sink- LT
Double Heat Sink- RT
Config- B
Large Pulse Laser- RT
Medium Pulse Laser- RT
Large Pulse Laser- LT
Medium Pulse Laser- LT
Large Pulse Laser- CT
Targeting Computer- RT (5 crits)
3 Double Heat Sinks- LT
Double Heat Sink- RA
Config- Prime
No lower arms or hands
Cost: 21,411,145
BV: 2,016
Config- A
Has lower arm and hand in right arm only
Cost: 17,546,295
BV: 1,757
Config- B
Has lower arms and hands
Cost: 19,912,382
BV: 2,100
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Kraken
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 14:48 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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Hatchet? What Clan uses this? Physical attacks among the Clans are verboten. As it is, something strikes me about this in relationship to the Loki (Hellbringer).
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Ares
Clan Jade Falcon
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 15:04 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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I always thought it was a physical attack using no weapon (kick, punch, charge). I thought they considered only hatchets honorable for melee. (no mace, sword, claw)
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chihawk
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 15:51 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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Ummmm, using "high" Honor rules all physicals are forbidden.
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Black_Phoenix
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 20:33 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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On 2002-06-26 14:48, Kraken wrote:
Hatchet? What Clan uses this? Physical attacks among the Clans are verboten.
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Talk to the people that created The Drawing Board. According to that program, clan mechs can have hatchets. I only put it in there because I like to use hatchets, sometimes.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 20:36 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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While I never tried I'm betting you could add a hatchet to a Clan mech in HMP too. It's not illegal for them to have them, it's against their rules of Honor to use them....
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Black_Phoenix
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 20:41 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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On 2002-06-26 20:36, chihawk wrote:
It's not illegal for them to have them, it's against their rules of Honor to use them....
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At least for those people that follow honor rules. 
I prefer to have a 2 on 1 battle, giving an advantage to IS mechs. For that reason I can use hatchets without breaking zellbringen.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 20:46 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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No, you can't, at least not by the "real" rules of Honor.
If you challenge both IS mechs then you still have to follow Honor rules--and by setting up the scenario to make it a 2 on 1 you've effectively challenged both mechs.
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Black_Phoenix
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 20:54 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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On 2002-06-26 20:46, chihawk wrote:
No, you can't, at least not by the "real" rules of Honor.
If you challenge both IS mechs then you still have to follow Honor rules--and by setting up the scenario to make it a 2 on 1 you've effectively challenged both mechs.
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As I said, that is assuming I follow the rules. I like to use the broken zellbringen rules, that way I am forced to split my attention and has less chance of survival. Not that I have much of a chance to begin with. 
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chihawk
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 21:09 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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I think that intentionally not following the rules to give yourself an advantage or to allow the use of a normally "forbidden" tactic is a touch munchy, but to each his own...
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Black_Phoenix
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 21:15 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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On 2002-06-26 21:09, chihawk wrote:
I think that intentionally not following the rules to give yourself an advantage or to allow the use of a normally "forbidden" tactic is a touch munchy, but to each his own...
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I do not toss all of the rules out of the window, just ones such as the phyical attack rule. And the act of firing on seperate targets is worse for me, because, quite frankly, my luck really sucks. I am lucky even hit anything in a one on one battle. And besides, it is not like my opponent is going to complain, since I am he (during the honorless battles).
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chihawk
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 21:20 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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Like I said, to each his own...
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Black_Phoenix
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 21:24 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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On 2002-06-26 21:20, chihawk wrote:
Like I said, to each his own...
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What can I say, like to make the battle more fun.
I see that 100% of 1 person think that this mech is completely worthless.  I feel so proud.  
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Raven!
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| Posted: 26-Jun-2002 22:24 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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Make that two. As Clan player I think this mech is ridiculous and I would never pilot it. And if I saw an ally piloting it i'd ask the Inner Sphere opponenets if they'd mind while I handled an "internal" matter and blew the ever living crap out of them.
Raven, who has done this before
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Black_Phoenix
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| Posted: 27-Jun-2002 22:18 Post subject: Hellraiser (omni) |
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On 2002-06-26 22:24, Raven! wrote:
Make that two. As Clan player I think this mech is ridiculous and I would never pilot it. And if I saw an ally piloting it i'd ask the Inner Sphere opponenets if they'd mind while I handled an "internal" matter and blew the ever living crap out of them.
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But it is an omni-mech. Why destroy it? Just change the configs until you get something you like.
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