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Stinger
The Knights of Chaos
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Posted: 19-Aug-2005 02:48 Post subject: A pair of hatchetmen to consider.

First the 77X a design that I am only sort of happy with. As always comments are appreciated. BattleMech Technical Readout Type/Model: Hatchetman custom HCT-77X Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050 Config: Biped BattleMech Rules: Level 2, Standard design Mass: 45 tons Chassis: Chariot Type II Endo Steel Power Plant: 225 Edasich Motors XL Fusion Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: 5 Luxor 2/Q Standard Jump Jets Jump Capacity: 150 meters Armor Type: Durallex Super Medium with CASE Standard Armament: 2 Medium Lasers 1 ER PPC 2 Streak SRM 4s Manufacturer: Defiance Industries Location: Hesperus Communications System: TharHes Thalia HM-22 Targeting & Tracking System: TharHes Ares-8a ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ==Overview:== Originally when introduced the Hatchetman was met with very warm reviews. Shortly after there were many complaints about speed and survivability that came up. A few models have been tried and this is yet another attempt to "right the wrongs", so to speak. ==Capabilities:== The hardest part of any project is trying to come to an agreement with the 3 main issues concerning every battlemech. The Mech has to have speed - armor - firepower, and the balance has to be perfect or close to it. After looking at the initial blueprints for the Hatchetman the designers found that the firepower was good the speed was mediocre at best, as well as the armor. One of the things the designers did was to remove the old XL engine and give it a slightly more powerful XL (though they have reservations about this and are currently looking at a unit that keeps its original speed and uses a light engine instead), this allows for near max armor and a much different weapons package. The second was to use endo steel, as that gave a slightly better savings per ton over Ferro Fibrous. A pair of standard medium lasers are used instead of the ER models to allow for better heat management. The LB-10X was removed in favor of a ERPPC, This allows for constant firing of the PPC with out having to worry about ammo. A pair of Streak SRM 4's were added opposite of the PPC and are heavily shielded to avoid detection and act as a surprise to any unsuspecting MechWarrior. (A unique launch system was used and is the same as the LRM launch system on the Atlas, all 4 missiles shoot out of 1 tube so only 2 launch tubes are visible). And as always the hatchet remains the same. ==Deployment== Currentely none are in Deployment. The 4 Prototypes that they have are in the testing phase and are awating evaluation to further the design. -------------------------------------------------------- Type/Model: Hatchetman custom HCT-77X Mass: 45 tons Equipment: Crits Mass Int. Struct.: 75 pts Endo Steel 14 2.50 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT, 1 CT) Engine: 225 XL Fusion 12 5.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 5 Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 3 .00 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA) Gyro: 4 3.00 Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00 Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00 Armor Factor: 152 pts Standard 0 9.50 Internal Armor Structure Value Head: 3 9 Center Torso: 14 21 Center Torso (Rear): 6 L/R Side Torso: 11 16/16 L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6 L/R Arm: 7 14/14 L/R Leg: 11 22/22 Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass -------------------------------------------------------- 2 Medium Lasers LA 6 2 2.00 1 ER PPC RT 15 3 7.00 2 Streak SRM 4s LT 6 25 3 7.00 (Ammo Locations: 1 LT) CASE Equipment: LT 1 .50 1 Hatchet RH 3 3.00 5 Standard Jump Jets: 5 2.50 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL) -------------------------------------------------------- TOTALS: 27 71 45.00 Crits & Tons Left: 7 .00 Calculated Factors: Total Cost: 7,559,140 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,226 Cost per BV: 6,165.69 Weapon Value: 971 / 865 (Ratio = .79 / .71) Damage Factors: SRDmg = 23; MRDmg = 9; LRDmg = 4 BattleForce2: MP: 5J, Armor/Structure: 4/2 Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 1 Class: MM; Point Value: 12 ============================= And next the 88X, I think I like this one. ============================= BattleMech Technical Readout Type/Model: Hatchetman custom HCT-88X Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050 Config: Biped BattleMech Rules: Level 2, Standard design Mass: 45 tons Chassis: Chariot Type II Endo Steel Power Plant: 180 Edasich Motors Light Fusion Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h Jump Jets: 4 Luxor 2/Q Standard Jump Jets Jump Capacity: 120 meters Armor Type: Durallex Super Medium with CASE Standard Armament: 3 Medium Lasers 1 ER PPC 2 Streak SRM 4s Manufacturer: Defiance Industries Location: Hesperus Communications System: TharHes Thalia HM-22 Targeting & Tracking System: TharHes Ares-8a ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ==Overview:== Originally when introduced the Hatchetman was met with very warm reviews. Shortly after there were many complaints about speed and survivability that came up. A few models have been tried and this is yet another attempt to "right the wrongs", so to speak. ==Capabilities:== The hardest part of any project is trying to come to an agreement with the 3 main issues concerning every battlemech. The Mech has to have speed - armor - firepower, and the balance has to be perfect or close to it. After looking at the initial blueprints for the Hatchetman the designers found that the firepower was good the speed was mediocre at best, as well as the armor. A light engin replaces the XL on this model, this does slow the mech down to its original speed but does allow for near max armor and a much different weapons package. The second was to use endo steel, as that gave a slightly better savings per ton over Ferro Fibrous. 3 of the standard medium lasers are used instead of the ER models to allow for better heat management. The LB-10X was removed in favor of a ERPPC, This allows for constant firing of the PPC with out having to worry about ammo. A pair of Streak SRM 4's were added opposite of the PPC and are heavily shielded to avoid detection and act as a surprise to any unsuspecting MechWarrior. (A unique launch system was used and is the same as the LRM launch system on the Atlas, all 4 missiles shoot out of 1 tube so only 2 launch tubes are visible). And as always the hatchet remains the same. ==Deployment== Currentely none are in Deployment. The 4 Prototypes that they have are in the testing phase and are awating evaluation to further the design. Currentely being tested with the 77X, the 88X (dubbed the "ugly 88") does seem to be favored slightly over the 77X. -------------------------------------------------------- Type/Model: Hatchetman custom HCT-88X Mass: 45 tons Equipment: Crits Mass Int. Struct.: 75 pts Endo Steel 14 2.50 (Endo Steel Loc: 2 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT, 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL) Engine: 180 Light Fusion 10 5.50 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 Jumping MP: 4 Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 9 .00 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA) Gyro: 4 2.00 Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00 Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00 Armor Factor: 152 pts Standard 0 9.50 Internal Armor Structure Value Head: 3 9 Center Torso: 14 21 Center Torso (Rear): 6 L/R Side Torso: 11 16/16 L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6 L/R Arm: 7 14/14 L/R Leg: 11 22/22 Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass -------------------------------------------------------- 2 Medium Lasers LA 6 2 2.00 1 ER PPC RT 15 3 7.00 2 Streak SRM 4s LT 6 25 3 7.00 (Ammo Locations: 1 LT) 1 Medium Laser HD 3 1 1.00 CASE Equipment: LT 1 .50 1 Hatchet RH 3 3.00 4 Standard Jump Jets: 4 2.00 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT) -------------------------------------------------------- TOTALS: 30 75 45.00 Crits & Tons Left: 3 .00 Calculated Factors: Total Cost: 5,498,690 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,132 Cost per BV: 4,857.5 Weapon Value: 1,024 / 924 (Ratio = .90 / .82) Damage Factors: SRDmg = 24; MRDmg = 9; LRDmg = 4 BattleForce2: MP: 4J, Armor/Structure: 4/3 Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 2 Class: MM; Point Value: 11 Both have been submitted to teh TRO's as well. [ This Message was edited by: Stinger on 2005-08-19 02:49 ] _________________ Stinger If it's "creepy" to use the Internet, military satellites, and robot aircraft to find a house full of gorgeous young models so I can drop in on them unexpected, then FINE, I'm "creepy". Howard Wolowitz. BBT.

Nightmare
Lyran Alliance
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Joined: 03-May-2002 00:00
Posts: 2214

Posted: 19-Aug-2005 06:04 Post subject: RE: A pair of hatchetmen to consider.

I miss the LB-10X. Shooting people with cluster munitions for crit seeking was always fun. The SRMs make up for it once you get into firing range. The 88X is the better try IMO. It keeps the same speed so you don't have to think about that in addition to the new weapons. _________________ A tree fall in the forest, and no one is around, and it hits a mime. Does anyone care?

Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
Tai-i
Tai-i

Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00
Posts: 4820
Location: Czech Republic

Posted: 19-Aug-2005 07:54 Post subject: RE: A pair of hatchetmen to consider.

I considered the PPC Hatchetman before, but made nothing yet. The SRMs nicely complement the close range firepower. _________________ The dragon NEVER sleeps!

bladewind
Free Rasalhague Republic
Major General

Joined: 02-Oct-2004 00:00
Posts: 1054
Location: Singapore

Posted: 19-Aug-2005 09:14 Post subject: RE: A pair of hatchetmen to consider.

How bout downgrading the Hatchetman to 4/6/4 with a Light Engine instead ? More lyran feel and the mech isn't quite as vulnerable. Of course it will still be a city mugger in such a configuration. But meh its still your call. [ This Message was edited by: bladewind on 2005-08-19 09:17 ]