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Sleeping Dragon
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Max Tech states that unit may carry only one targeting system, but the Morningstar City Command Vehicle has two, C3 Master and targeting computer. Are these systems compatible with each other or is this some kind of mistake?
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 05:12 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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C3 is not a targeting device, it aids in it but it is not a targeting device. You can place C3 and TCs together.
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 05:38 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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That statement refers to the level 3 targeting systems, such as long range, short range, variable range, anti-aircraft, multi-trac, etc. . . . As I understand it (I don't have Max Tech), having one of these exludes having any others. Some occupy a head crit and/or take up tonnage.
I've never used any of these, so someone else would do better in explaining them.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 06:24 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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p. 59 - Max Tech - C3 counts as unit's targeting and tracking system as well and cannot be combined with other lvl 3 targeting systems (TC is lvl 3 prototype in Max Tech, but it is otherwise the same TC that entered the production later)
I don't know, if it isn't discussed in new BMR, in older version IS had only C3, so no problems with compatibility.
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 06:37 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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Well, HMPro allows you to mount the two componets at the same time. i would trust this to mean that they are thuse allowed to be combined.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 06:58 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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I would rather stay with the written rule.
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 09:20 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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You're problem is you're reading from Max Tech. Max Tech is a Lvl 3 book. Read the BMR for the actual rules of the game as rules you see in Max Tech are purely level 3, unless they are also in the BMR.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 10:29 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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Older BMR doesn't have IS TCs and the revised edition still avoids me.
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| Posted: 10-Jun-2005 15:48 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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On 2005-06-10 06:58, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
I would rather stay with the written rule.
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The way the rules for C3 and Target Computers are written they are compatible...that's because neither system specifically forbids the other to be used.
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2005 04:49 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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Max Tech forbids using both, but if revised BMR says it's okay, than it's okay (does it say so?).
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2005 07:20 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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On 2005-06-11 04:49, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
Max Tech forbids using both, but if revised BMR says it's okay, than it's okay (does it say so?).
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Where in MaxTech does it forbid the use of C3 and a Target Computer? My copy doesn't even hint at it...
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2005 14:01 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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I was looking as well. Cant find any mention of C3 in any of the targeting computer descriptions.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 12-Jun-2005 09:40 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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p. 58 and 59 Maximum Tech revised, New Targeting and Tracking Systems
C3 Computer ... such a computer counts as a unit's targeting and tracking system as well, and it cannot be combined with Level 3 systems described above. (IS TC is one of those systems)
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| Posted: 12-Jun-2005 10:10 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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On 2005-06-12 09:40, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
p. 58 and 59 Maximum Tech revised, New Targeting and Tracking Systems
C3 Computer ... such a computer counts as a unit's targeting and tracking system as well, and it cannot be combined with Level 3 systems described above. (IS TC is one of those systems)
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But C3 is not...you are limited to one of the systems listed on that page. C3 is not listed on that page.
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| Posted: 12-Jun-2005 10:27 Post subject: RE: Targeting system compatibility |
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On 2005-06-12 10:10, chihawk wrote:
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On 2005-06-12 09:40, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
p. 58 and 59 Maximum Tech revised, New Targeting and Tracking Systems
C3 Computer ... such a computer counts as a unit's targeting and tracking system as well, and it cannot be combined with Level 3 systems described above. (IS TC is one of those systems)
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But C3 is not...you are limited to one of the systems listed on that page. C3 is not listed on that page.
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And the Targeting Computer is now Level 2, as of the revised BMR. 
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