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Delta
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 Posted: 09-Aug-2005 21:58 Post subject: Fusion Reactors |
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Fluff question.
OK, aerospace craft use it for reaction mass. And a lot. But how much hydrogen does a mech/tank use?
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| Posted: 10-Aug-2005 00:08 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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They don't need reaction mass. Just electricity, baby.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 10-Aug-2005 01:49 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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They need reaction mass (you have to fuse something in a Fusion Reactor!  ).
But they need only a few gramms per month so if you fill a reactor you will get years of operation!
Edit: There was a BT-source for this information but I can´t remember where!
[ This Message was edited by: Rudel Gurken on 2005-08-10 01:52 ]
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Ruger
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| Posted: 10-Aug-2005 20:30 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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On 2005-08-10 01:49, Rudel Gurken wrote:
They need reaction mass (you have to fuse something in a Fusion Reactor! ).
But they need only a few gramms per month so if you fill a reactor you will get years of operation!
Edit: There was a BT-source for this information but I can´t remember where!
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You're probably thinking of the BattleTech Companion...
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 11-Aug-2005 01:22 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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I think it must be...
*A book flies through the air*
But it has to be...
*Another book flies*
Maybe I´ll find...
*Rudel delves into his shelf! Can take lots of time now!*
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 11-Aug-2005 09:49 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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And here I thought reaction mass refers to the stuff you charge up and throw out behind your fighter to provide thrust.
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Delta
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| Posted: 11-Aug-2005 22:46 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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On 2005-08-11 09:49, Nightmare wrote:
And here I thought reaction mass refers to the stuff you charge up and throw out behind your fighter to provide thrust.
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It is. But if you looked at my wording...
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On 2005-08-09 21:58, Delta wrote:
OK, aerospace craft use it for reaction mass. And a lot. But how much hydrogen does a mech/tank use?
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I didn't say tanks/mechs used reaction mass. Just how much hydrogen is nessisary. 
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 12-Aug-2005 01:32 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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Hah!!
*jumps out of the shelf*
Got it!
AT2 page 66ff
Vehicle and Mech fusion engines only need minimal reaction-mass but Fighter & Co use this heated plasma from the engine to throw it behind to get accelleration!
So fighters need lots of reaction-mass!
Reaction-mass is liquid dihydrogen!
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 12-Aug-2005 04:22 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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Not enough to consider it in single engagement, but enough to consider watter to be valuable resource. The mech would have internal tank (part of engine) for water and it would probably have capacity for (approximately) two weeks of normal activity and something around six days of fighting.
That looks reasonable, but it's just my opinion.
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| Posted: 12-Aug-2005 08:06 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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| Ok, thanks. The question has been answered.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 12-Aug-2005 09:28 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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Hey it´s liquid H2 not H2O!
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Delta
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| Posted: 12-Aug-2005 17:37 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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On 2005-08-12 09:28, Rudel Gurken wrote:
Hey it´s liquid H2 not H2O!
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Actually, Hydrogren is just H, as Oxygen is O, so mechs run on liquid H (Enough basic element talk for now)
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| Posted: 12-Aug-2005 18:53 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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On 2005-08-12 17:37, Delta wrote:
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On 2005-08-12 09:28, Rudel Gurken wrote:
Hey it´s liquid H2 not H2O!
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Actually, Hydrogren is just H, as Oxygen is O, so mechs run on liquid H (Enough basic element talk for now)
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If you read again, it says Dihydrogen... or 2 hydrogen. soit is H2 not H1.
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| Posted: 12-Aug-2005 19:08 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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I stand corrected. 
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| Posted: 13-Aug-2005 03:51 Post subject: RE: Fusion Reactors |
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Actually atomic hydrogen is quite (extremely) reactive and almost immediately reacts and creates dihydrogen. Storing liquid dihydrogen would be really problematic, because it would be pressurized (if it's hit, say boom), or frozen (not easy with all the heat). It's easier to use water and gain hydrogen through electrolysis - main problem with reactors today is that whole process requires more energy than you gain from the fusion (correct me, if I'm wrong. I'm not strong at physics.).
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