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Sleeping Dragon
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 Posted: 25-Feb-2010 23:53 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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Type 14 (I still don't have a fitting name) is the latest of my line of cheap universal omni vehicles. I wanted a helicopter cobining speed with some punch, but I also wanted to get closer to current combat helicopters. This is the closest thing that I've managed to do. It's still way too slow and heavy (as the AH-64 or Ka 52 helicopters are able to fly at 350 km/h, weigh less than 10 tons and pack missiles with destructive power and range is barely matched only by heavier thunderbolt missiles)
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Type 14 Attack Helicopter
IS V.T.O.L. level 2
Mass: 14t
Internal structure: 1.5t
Engine: 45 I.C.E 2t
MP: 10/15
Heat sinks: - 0t
Control equipment: 1t
Rotors: 1.5t
Armor: standard 32 2t
Internal structure armor
Front: 2 10
R/L Side: 2/2 7/7
Rear: 2 6
Rotor: 2 2
Pod space: 9 items 6t
Weapons and ammo location tonnage
primary configuration
2 MML 3 Front 3t
MML 3 (24) Body 1t
MG Front 0.5t
MG (100) Body 0.5t
C3 slave Body 1t
configuration A
6 RL 10 Front 3t
MG Front 0.5t
MG (100) Body 0.5t
Cargo Body 2t
configuration B
LAC/5 Front 5t
LAC/5 (20) Body 1t
configuration C
BAP Front 1.5t
GECM Suite Body 1.5t
C3 slave Body 1t
MG Front 0.5t
MG (100) Body 0.5t
Configuration D
Narc Front 3t
Narc (18) Body 3t
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Karagin
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| Posted: 26-Feb-2010 02:19 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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I like where you are going with this omni style setup. The name is fine as it is. I thought you were going for Chinese inspriered naming pattern, since they Type XYZ for a lot of their stuff.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 26-Feb-2010 13:59 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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Well, the naming pattern was actually nonexistent Jari is named after Japanese spear, which with the original fluff would denote it as a general purpose weapon, which it is.
Swiftfire completely lacks any connection. It's just a highly mobile weapons platform (compared to regular tanks, it kinda looses that edge when compared to the hovercrafts and most other VTOLs).
I was toying with creation of the basic omni vehicles and basing their nomenclature on tonnage. For Type 14 I had in mind the "Devil's Chariot", as the Afghan warriors started to call the Mi-24s during the Russian-Afghan war, but I've failed to locate the translation so far.
Chinese naming pattern is Type XX, where XX is the last numeral of the 19XX year pattern, isn't it?
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Karagin
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| Posted: 27-Feb-2010 07:20 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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I believe they do use the year, the Japanese use the Type XX naming system as well, but I can not remember if it follows the same pattern as the Chinese or not.
Try doing a Google for stuff about the movie Charlie Wislon's War, it might have what you are looking for.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2010 03:05 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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Nice Heli. Concerning tonnage, speed or range just don`t try to compare BT to reality  Considering that you made a good job on this one.
A suggestion: In conf. A you can drop two RL's to be able to carry a full foot platoon or two squads of motorized infantry. Or does the two ton cargo bay a special purpose that i'm not aware of in the moment?
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2010 04:14 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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Well, I wasn't really considering the foot infantry or even motorized. These helicopters are meant to carry a platoon of jump infantry or 4 BAs between a pair of them.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2010 04:16 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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Ah! Ok then
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| Posted: 12-May-2010 13:16 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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| Sleeping Dragon, This VTOL has not much armor and could easily be shot down after a few turns so I recommend removing some of the ammo in favor of jet boosters for more speed and to make it harder to hit and armor piercing shells for configuration B.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 13-May-2010 00:34 Post subject: Type 14 Attack Helicopter |
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Any VTOL can be shot down in a few turns and I didn't make any illusions about that. Ability to survive single clan LL laser hit was the goal. Please note that it's a 14 t dragonfly and not a 25 t eagle. Keep moving and shooting. That's all.
Jet boosters are not tournament legal and maximum to-hit modifiers under normal rules end at 10 hexes per turn. You can pull that off with the VTOL as it is and any reduction in pod-space prevents the configurations from working under tournament-legal rules as well.
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